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Old 01-04-2007, 05:56 PM   #101
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... on the 14 string single course lately.
Holy shit! Mike you've got to tell us more about this

I didn't think it was possible to have 14 strings tuned in 4ths without reaching the limits of breakage (even for Garry's strings) at the high end, or going way below C0 at the low end.
I'm dying to know what the tuning is!?! (not 4ths?)
and the scale lengths?

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Old 01-04-2007, 06:30 PM   #102
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Holy shit! Mike you've got to tell us more about this

I didn't think it was possible to have 14 strings tuned in 4ths without reaching the limits of breakage (even for Garry's strings) at the high end, or going way below C0 at the low end.
I'm dying to know what the tuning is!?! (not 4ths?)
and the scale lengths?

and of course: Pics!!!

You're one exciting builder!
I`ve been testing prototype strings and the new batch will be in tomorrow.
We`re almost there where I`m happy with the tensions and tone.
All will be revieled soon young Grasshopper, all will be revieled!
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:32 PM   #103
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Fair enough!
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:50 AM   #104
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:56 AM   #105
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My big question to anyone thinking 12,13 +strings is...where are you going to get the strings?

Some people think I just buy pre-made wire from some secret supplier.
My wire has had about 16 versions spanning 4 years of developement with direct interaction with veteran steel workers. I ask them to make the string do this or that and to make the string stronger. We tried mixing various metals and compounds. I really don't think anyone has put this much time and effort into developing new strings.

The president of a well known string company told me his .007 had a tensile strength of about 650,000 p.s.i.. I asked him to send me a sample. Three months later it arrived. It turned out to be 510-516,000 p.s.i. I won't say it's impossible,but when he told me 650,000 p.s.i., I made ugly faces. The strings kept breaking before reaching the desired pitch.He told me the same info on his .006 strings.
My wire AFTER it is straightened is just under 600,000 p.s.i.. My steel guys dared me to find anyone who can top that. People act surprized when string companies and wire suppliers can't seem to match this wire.

You don't just buy .006 wire and expect it to tune up to A440 at 30" or Ab4 at 32" or G4 at 34".

Another string company has had my wire for nearly 11 months and they can't seem to wind ball ends on it. I have given up trying to offer the wire commercially. I hand wind ball ends on for a few people,most of whom are on this forum.
So anyone who can get wire to tune up higher than my wire and do it without considerable R&D- I salute you. And sello me some cause I am worn out.
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:16 AM   #106
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:23 AM   #107
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:30 AM   #108
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:32 AM   #109
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This doesn't bode well since I dissed those guys in another thread earlier...

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Old 01-05-2007, 10:36 AM   #110
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