NGD :: 8-string - headless - ergonomic - fanned fret

helferlain · 07-09-2011, 06:23 AM

Hi,

some of you know my building thread already: 8-string. ergonomic. headless. fanned fret. phase 1::design

And yes, Im finished so far with my new 8-string headless ergonomic fanned fret guitar

The specs:

body: alder
neck: maple (3 pieces)
fretboard: flamed ebony
design: inspired by ergonomic guitars, considering my playing positions and my own ergonomic
scale: multiscale 720mm - 800mm. the last 2 frets of the standard string are cut off
pickups: selfmade single coils. low impedance, 500 rounds. two singlecoils are set in a bridge humbucker position, one singlecoil in neck position
hardware: ABM single string tunder bridges
string retainer: selfmade prototypes (just some screws...)
electronics: active preamp with state-variable-filter. this allows to set the resonance frequence and quality independend from the pickups. any pickup character is possible ( and more...)

The pics:

Soundsamples (soon) and videoclips ( not so soon )will follow.

IB-studjent- · 07-09-2011, 07:10 AM

Awesome.

Kruxx · 07-09-2011, 07:23 AM

All that comes to mind is Yummy, and that neck joint is tasty aswell

ILuvPillows · 07-09-2011, 07:35 AM

I can't even comprehend this guitar..and i'm looking right at it!
Awesome guitar non the less
Any reason you chose to join two single coils together for the bridge humbucker?

MaKo´s Tethan · 07-09-2011, 07:43 AM

I hate that kind of guitar, but this is really really nice, I love the overall design and the finish is perfect! 28-31" right? may be I will build something like these someday...

Fred the Shred · 07-09-2011, 07:46 AM

Ah, it ended up looking great!

Now get those clips done!

Goatchrist · 07-09-2011, 07:56 AM

Wow! These pictures sure look stunning! Congrats, that's some great work you've done!

Weiter so!

Static · 07-09-2011, 07:57 AM

damn dude that looks beautiful.love that neck joint.

TimSE · 07-09-2011, 08:03 AM

Dude that is killer!

jon66 · 07-09-2011, 08:18 AM

Killer job dude! Everything looks super professionally done and your work top-notch! Can't wait to hear clips!

helferlain · 07-09-2011, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILuvPillows

...
Any reason you chose to join two single coils together for the bridge humbucker?

Yes. The typical sound of a pickup is made of two major causes:

Resonance frequency and peak/quality. In classic passive pickups this is the consequence from the pickups impedance, capacity and inductivity. In my case I can set those with the filter circuit.
Magnetic aperture. This means the width of the magnetic field of the pickup that is "touched" from the strings. Single coils are narrower then humbuckers and have a narrower magnetic field / aperture. The broader magnetic aperture of the humbuckers leads to reducing the hights and enhancing the mids and lows.
This is the reason why a single coil has its clear hights while a humbucker has its fat warm mids but lacks the hights compared to single coils.
The magnetic aperture is given by the magntes of the pickus / the pickup design itself. It can not be altered / influencend.
To get the basis for a typical humbucker / singlecoil sound you need the appropriate layout of the magnetic field.

I want the singlecoil neck pu and the humbucker bridge pu sound. With the basis of the pu layout I can tune the character of the pups with the filter circuit to my needs.

I can't explain it better in english. I have only some german recources. If anyone has a easy-to-understand explanation of this topic please post a link.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaKo´s Tethan

... and the finish is perfect! 28-31" right? ...

Sorry, the pics are lying. The finish isn't so good. I did all I can with my cam not to show

720mm - 800mm would be 28.35" - 31.50".
The scale for the reduced 6 strings is 640mm - 692mm / 25.36" - 27.24"

Skyblue · 07-09-2011, 08:55 AM

I'm sorry, but you seem to have mistaken. That's no guitar- that's a spaceship

technomancer · 07-09-2011, 09:39 AM

Awesome design, looking forward to hearing sound samples

Mindcrime1204 · 07-09-2011, 09:45 AM

Would love to hear this thing...

Also.... I don't think there's enough screws on the heel

Way cool, bro.

scherzo1928 · 07-09-2011, 10:27 AM

That came out amazing. And it was quite a fast build as well.

Sooooo, what's next?

JamesM · 07-09-2011, 10:29 AM

So sick.

MikeH · 07-09-2011, 10:38 AM

I want a ....ing headless guitar.

Nublet · 07-09-2011, 10:40 AM

Totally missed the whole building process until the end but still, great work! That's such a marvelous guitar.

vampiregenocide · 07-09-2011, 11:29 AM

Dude I completely missed this build. That is bloody impressive. The design, everything is really fresh and unique. Not seen anything like it before. It's a mix of retro and modern. One of the most interesting builds I've seen on here, really looking forward to vids and clips.

metalman_ltd · 07-09-2011, 11:37 AM

Everything looks sweet man. Definitely want me a headless one of these days.

EtherealEntity · 07-09-2011, 12:52 PM

Absolutely incredible. Good job, well done!

Empryrean · 07-09-2011, 02:18 PM

congratulations on your latest build sir!

flo · 07-09-2011, 02:32 PM

It turned out amazing!

What a unique and innovative guitar, both in terms of design and electronics.

But it still has got some kind of Fender-vibe (at least for me, because of the finish, pickguard and three single coils, armrest, bolted neck,woods etc.), cool

The Djentocaster

helferlain · 07-09-2011, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flo

It turned out amazing!

What a unique and innovative guitar, both in terms of design and electronics.

But it still has got some kind of Fender-vibe (at least for me, because of the finish, pickguard and three single coils, armrest, bolted neck,woods etc.), cool

The Djentocaster

You are right. Wait for the sound samples. I think there is a Tele inside

Variant · 07-09-2011, 06:44 PM

That's awesome!!!

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07-09-2011, 06:23 AM	#1
helferlain D.I.Y. autodidact Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 216 Thanked: 13 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	NGD :: 8-string - headless - ergonomic - fanned fret Hi, some of you know my building thread already: 8-string. ergonomic. headless. fanned fret. phase 1::design And yes, Im finished so far with my new 8-string headless ergonomic fanned fret guitar The specs: body: alder neck: maple (3 pieces) fretboard: flamed ebony design: inspired by ergonomic guitars, considering my playing positions and my own ergonomic scale: multiscale 720mm - 800mm. the last 2 frets of the standard string are cut off pickups: selfmade single coils. low impedance, 500 rounds. two singlecoils are set in a bridge humbucker position, one singlecoil in neck position hardware: ABM single string tunder bridges string retainer: selfmade prototypes (just some screws...) electronics: active preamp with state-variable-filter. this allows to set the resonance frequence and quality independend from the pickups. any pickup character is possible ( and more...) The pics: Soundsamples (soon) and videoclips ( not so soon )will follow. shadscbr, Durero, magic_golem and 14 others like this.

07-09-2011, 07:43 AM	#5
MaKo´s Tethan Guitar Mod. Syndrome Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Patagonia Posts: 2,210 Thanked: 62 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I hate that kind of guitar, but this is really really nice, I love the overall design and the finish is perfect! 28-31" right? may be I will build something like these someday... iron blast likes this. Rap metal is always numetal, whereas numetal isnt always rap. Demoniac

07-09-2011, 07:46 AM	#6
Fred the Shred Shrederick Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 6,067 Thanked: 118 Feedback Score: 17 reviews	Ah, it ended up looking great! Now get those clips done! Buy my album, will you? My store \| CDBaby FredBrum.com Happily endorsed by Jaden Rose Guitars, DiMarzio Pickups, Gruv Gear, Sik Pik Picks, PHD Picks and Spectraflex cables

07-09-2011, 07:56 AM	#7
Goatchrist Jebus Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Baden, CH Posts: 1,642 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow! These pictures sure look stunning! Congrats, that's some great work you've done! Weiter so! You must unlearn what you have learned.

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07-09-2011, 07:10 AM	#2
IB-studjent- ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 656 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Awesome.

07-09-2011, 07:23 AM	#3
Kruxx ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Aus Posts: 40 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All that comes to mind is Yummy, and that neck joint is tasty aswell

07-09-2011, 07:35 AM	#4
ILuvPillows Baby seal will destr Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bath, England Posts: 436 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can't even comprehend this guitar..and i'm looking right at it! Awesome guitar non the less Any reason you chose to join two single coils together for the bridge humbucker?

07-09-2011, 07:57 AM	#8
Static Metal Meister Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 456 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn dude that looks beautiful.love that neck joint.

07-09-2011, 08:03 AM	#9
TimSE SS Contributor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 4,158 Thanked: 139 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Dude that is killer! www.facebook.com/tempusfusionband http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/to-...ll/id507292058

07-09-2011, 08:18 AM	#10
jon66 SS Contributor Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 417 Thanked: 27 / 1 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Killer job dude! Everything looks super professionally done and your work top-notch! Can't wait to hear clips!

07-09-2011, 08:55 AM	#12
Skyblue SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Israel Posts: 597 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm sorry, but you seem to have mistaken. That's no guitar- that's a spaceship MikeH, iron blast, FYP666 and 6 others like this.

07-09-2011, 09:39 AM	#13
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus • Super Moderator • Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Out there, somewhere Posts: 23,262 Thanked: 175 Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Awesome design, looking forward to hearing sound samples Incoming It's a surprise

07-09-2011, 09:45 AM	#14
Mindcrime1204 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,825 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Would love to hear this thing... Also.... I don't think there's enough screws on the heel Way cool, bro. WARNING: This guitar does not float! DO NOT attempt to surf on it!

07-09-2011, 10:27 AM	#15
scherzo1928 has wood for you Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexico City Posts: 4,697 Thanked: 33 $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That came out amazing. And it was quite a fast build as well. Sooooo, what's next? Is this... guitar?

07-09-2011, 10:29 AM	#16
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 87 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	So sick. Cloudyhead. Facebook//Twitter//Bandcamp Watch:1,2,3,4,5 Debut Album, Abstraction out now!

07-09-2011, 10:38 AM	#17
MikeH Tune Low, Play Slow Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milford, OH Posts: 7,495 Thanked: 236 Feedback Score: 17 reviews	I want a ....ing headless guitar. Did You Mean Australia?: My deathcore band. New EP out very soon! Nouns: My progressive metalcore band Not Of Man: My Down-tempo sludge project

07-09-2011, 10:40 AM	#18
Nublet Sevenstring wannabe Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 137 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Totally missed the whole building process until the end but still, great work! That's such a marvelous guitar.

07-09-2011, 11:29 AM	#19
vampiregenocide A Chap Called Ross Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hertfordshire, England Posts: 15,061 Thanked: 273 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dude I completely missed this build. That is bloody impressive. The design, everything is really fresh and unique. Not seen anything like it before. It's a mix of retro and modern. One of the most interesting builds I've seen on here, really looking forward to vids and clips. My Photography Myspace - http://www.myspace.com/rosswildishphotography Dissonant Media - The news source for new alternate/progressive music! Check us out: http://de-de.facebook.com/pages/Sawbridgeworth-United-Kingdom/Dissonant-Media/126448677394107 http://www.youtube.com/user/DissonantMedia#p/a http://dissonantmedia.tumblr.com/

07-09-2011, 11:37 AM	#20
metalman_ltd ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 347 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Everything looks sweet man. Definitely want me a headless one of these days. BACK TO THE GRAVE

07-09-2011, 12:52 PM	#21
EtherealEntity Tom Winspear Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,358 Thanked: 77 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Absolutely incredible. Good job, well done!

07-09-2011, 02:18 PM	#22
Empryrean Haahh!? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Merced, CA Posts: 4,075 Thanked: 54 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	congratulations on your latest build sir! [ry_z] 4:17 am: You looked tiredness in the face, flexed, and canceled it.

07-09-2011, 02:32 PM	#23
flo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lautern, Germany Posts: 912 Thanked: 22 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It turned out amazing! What a unique and innovative guitar, both in terms of design and electronics. But it still has got some kind of Fender-vibe (at least for me, because of the finish, pickguard and three single coils, armrest, bolted neck,woods etc.), cool The Djentocaster GenghisCoyne likes this.

07-09-2011, 06:44 PM	#25
Variant Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: All-white-tukee, Arizona Posts: 5,641 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's awesome!!!

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