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Old 10-06-2006, 11:37 AM   #111
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I'll get it no matter what, as long as I can get low and dirty. 28" is good for me.

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Old 10-06-2006, 12:10 PM   #112
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Nope Kurt specifically said fanned frets weren't realistic...
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Kurt> No problem - but fanned could add at least $100+ to the price ($75 for the license alone)
I'd say while that's not approval, per se, that's also DEFINITELY not a "that's not feasible."

So far we have two guys who wouldn't buy it if it's fanned, as opposed to maybe 8-10 changing their boxers over the prospect of an affordable fanned fret 8. From a marketing perspective, fanned frets probably make sense.

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Old 10-06-2006, 12:25 PM   #113
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I would say no to fanned frets, but what the heck, it's trying something new.

What exactly do fanned frets do anyway? Pardon me asking...
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:34 PM   #114
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Gurantee it will be I'd be suprised if it was over $799..the most expensive guitar I have seen rondo sell is $529 or $629

in regards to neg zero and urklvt...if you don't like it don't buy it..
Did you even read my post, or zero's for that matter? I've been agreeing with Darren from post one. I even said it was PERFECT. Maybe I'm too old for this contemporary form of logic.... Besides, there is no IT. There is no one design that everyone has agreed on and there never will be.

All of the other design options introduced after design one are gorgeous, but be realistic here. How many of those different designs will actually see the light of day? One? Two, maybe?

Ultimately this will not end up in a consensus, and a poll will serve only to reflect the division of opinions in the matter. However, this is not OUR design. Darren may have asked for input, but ultimately the design is his, and the final details will be worked out between him and Kurt whether we like them or not. It will not please everyone, but whether I like the final outcome or not I still hope against hope that this actually happens.

1. Darren is a great designer and deserves to see his designs come to life
2. We need more than one option for a production model 8 string guitar on the market
3. The guitar playing world needs more than ever to realize that the standards (6 strings, tuned E to E) set by our forerunners are in serious need of review
4. 7 strings are not enough; we have 10 fingers, damn it!

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Old 10-06-2006, 12:41 PM   #115
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So far we have two guys who wouldn't buy it if it's fanned, as opposed to maybe 8-10 changing their boxers over the prospect of an affordable fanned fret 8.
Since seeing the last design I've taken to not wearing any boxers I find it's easier this way.
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:43 PM   #116
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I'd say while that's not approval, per se, that's also DEFINITELY not a "that's not feasible."

So far we have two guys who wouldn't buy it if it's fanned, as opposed to maybe 8-10 changing their boxers over the prospect of an affordable fanned fret 8. From a marketing perspective, fanned frets probably make sense.
I'd prefer it, simply because the prospect of playing 8 sounds challenging enough, why not make it more interesting with fanned frets?

Besides, the theory behind really makes sense with an 8.

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7 strings are not enough; we have 10 fingers, damn it!
Well, not to split hairs or anything, but we have 8 fingers, 2 thumbs. That being said, I find myself using my thumb a lot for muting the low B on my 7, which is quite handy and comfy too.
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:51 PM   #117
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I would say no to fanned frets, but what the heck, it's trying something new.

What exactly do fanned frets do anyway? Pardon me asking...
Fanned frets allow you to retain a uniform string tension over a broader range without having to drastically alter your string gauges.

This is especially true in the case of guitars with more than 6 or 7 strings. Some would disagree, but to tune a 25.5" scale 8 string guitar to low F#, the string for the F# has to be quite thick to keep it from being floppy, and that usually means a loss of clarity and a severe disparity in string gauges between adjacent strings. If you fan the frets so that the low end is wider you can use a slightly thinner string tuned to the same note, retaining clarity and uniform tension across the fretboard.

There is generally a minimal amount of adjustment to be made to your playing technique, but it is a factor to consider.

I personally am sticking with standard frets because of my particular technique. To ensure that I do not suffer with tension issues I will be using string gauges that are more adapted to the scale length that I prefer rather than just using standard sets.

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Old 10-06-2006, 01:04 PM   #118
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:29 PM   #119
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So far we have two guys who wouldn't buy it if it's fanned, as opposed to maybe 8-10 changing their boxers over the prospect of an affordable fanned fret 8. From a marketing perspective, fanned frets probably make sense.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:40 PM   #120
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Fanned frets for the win, if not, then 28 5/8 is good. Darren, do you build guitars? All the designs I see you come up with kick ass. I know this was just a modified bass, but the idea and specs were pretty sweet.
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