The Official Agile ERG Thread

[Ishan]

the 808 is EMG-40 sized.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kurtzentmaier

Not sure the 40's are wide enough ?

Kurt

They are thats what I'm currently using for my 8 string, and to add the 808's are encased in 40's. The 45's would just give too much output to the highest and lowest strings.

[Groff]

Originally Posted by kurtzentmaier

Not sure the 40's are wide enough ?

Kurt

They're 4" wide, does that help?(at least i think they are, the schematic on EMGs website is fuzzy) I don't know how wide an 808 is.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TheMissing

They're 4" wide, does that help? I don't know how wide an 808 is. There is a EMG HZ 45 (4.5") as well.

Read above post's

[El Caco]

Holy crap that mock up looks awesome and if I ever do consider getting an 8 to try, it will be that.

[plyta]

battery box mounting:
1) no body routing
2) you can ditch it if you hate actives (like I do)

[MF_Kitten]

Originally Posted by Ishan

Kurt should have a flight case ready when it came out too, cause I don't trust any shipping company with a cardboard box only you know Maybe one of his bass case could work.

i would love a case for it too... always makes a guitar seem more important, doesen´t it? :P

and they do have baritone cases, which i think should work for this as well, assuming it works for both 6 and 7 string baritones, in both 27" and 28" scales...

[B36arin]

Is the mahogany body final? Mahogany has a reputation of becoming muddy with really low tunings, especially when it's not top quality mahogany(no offence, but you can't expect the wood to be top drawer on a 500$ 8-string). I've never had my Schecter lower than A, and I haven't experienced any trouble with mud. But going down to F#(I'd probably go down to F to be able to play some Meshuggah), is there a risk of mahogany getting muddier than other alternative woods? I'm asking because I have no experience with that low tunings, but I've only heard that mahogany can get muddy when you go that low.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by B36arin

Is the mahogany body final? Mahogany has a reputation of becoming muddy with really low tunings, especially when it's not top quality mahogany(no offence, but you can't expect the wood to be top drawer on a 500$ 8-string). I've never had my Schecter lower than A, and I haven't experienced any trouble with mud. But going down to F#(I'd probably go down to F to be able to play some Meshuggah), is there a risk of mahogany getting muddier than other alternative woods? I'm asking because I have no experience with that low tunings, but I've only heard that mahogany can get muddy when you go that low.

It's going to be a maple/walnut neck through, so the majority of the tone will come from that and not the mahogany wings. They will just merely colour the tone, which I hope will give some much needed warmth due to the bright tone of the maple fretboard the EMG and maple neck.

[B36arin]

Ah ok, that makes sense.

[MF_Kitten]

hahaha! i love that one tag on this thread! :p

and i really can´t wait to see this happen, hopefully it´ll be soon!

[darren]

The more i think about it, the more i think it might make sense to go with an EMG-40HZ (or another passive pickup with identical dimensions).

It'll shave a few more dollars off the materials cost, and will give everyone a bit more choice. Some people might want an 808, some might want to put in passive pickups from Lundgren or Swineshead (among others) and some may want to install a 40TW and additional EMG active circuits. Routing for a battery box (or cutting one into the control cavity cover) isn't too difficult.

What do you guys think?

[Ishan]

I'd say keep the double battery box and 808. Due to the price the factory is going to pay for those 808 (far lower than retail) it won't matter much in the final price I guess. We'll have to ask Kurt about this, but if it cuts another 50$ I'm in! (but keep the damn double battery box plz )

[MF_Kitten]

fitting it with lundgrens or something like that wouldn´t look too good though, due to the size difference of the cavity... so some sort of solution would have to be made there, if you wanted it to be easily moddable.

i´d be fine with that emg-40 thingy though, as long as it sounds nice (which i´ve heard it does).

i´d say make the 808 first priority, and the emg-40 lower priority. if there is no way to make the 808 happen at the price you want it, then go for the 40.

maybe include pickup rings for 8-string sized passive humbuckers, and just let users drill the tiny holes for the screws and all that to put it on?

could you produce some sort of in-house stock pickups for it maybe?

edit: and for the battery box, you could have a battery cavity that is covered by the control cavity cover, so you don´t see it unless you remove that cover. that way you wouldn´t have to put a separate cover on it. just have it a little to the side from the actual control cavity, and make the control cavity cover go over that as well...

there are lots of options, but i´d buy it anyways, as long as the price is fair

[Ishan]

There's many no name EMG-40 sized pickups out there but no one have tried them on an 8 string guitar

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ishan

There's many no name EMG-40 sized pickups out there but no one have tried them on an 8 string guitar

For instance: Mighty Mite 5 string bas pu's $50 for a pair.
NEW MIGHTY MITE 5 STRING PASSIVE SOAPBAR BASS PICKUPS - eBay (item 380013329649 end time Apr-08-08 18:15:00 PDT)

Mighty Mite active pair for $55
Bass Pickups - 5 String Active Soapbar Pickups NEW! - eBay (item 300188274271 end time Apr-05-08 10:00:03 PDT)

Seymour duncan passive 5 string soupbar(single) for $58
S DUNCAN PASSIVE SOAPBAR 5 STRING BASS PICKUP -BRIDGE - eBay (item 250191747570 end time Apr-22-08 21:11:30 PDT)

[plyta]

Originally Posted by darren

The more i think about it, the more i think it might make sense to go with an EMG-40HZ (or another passive pickup with identical dimensions).

It'll shave a few more dollars off the materials cost, and will give everyone a bit more choice. Some people might want an 808, some might want to put in passive pickups from Lundgren or Swineshead (among others) and some may want to install a 40TW and additional EMG active circuits. Routing for a battery box (or cutting one into the control cavity cover) isn't too difficult.

What do you guys think?

The cheaper, the better (passive FTW)

[MF_Kitten]

i´d still go with the emg-40 though, as it´s tested and tried as an 8-string pickup.

also, more people need to see that interest-thread, and more people need to go "OMG I WANT ONE!!!"...

and Darren, could you update the mockup to say 28", since that´s what it was apparently decided on? (or 28.625", i´d want that even more :P)

[Celiak]

I agree with the 28 5/8" scale, that would be perfect.

[MF_Kitten]

am i the only one that keeps refreshing in the hope of more people signing up for the "interested" thread? :P

i want this... and all my fellow GASers know how this feels! :P

i was going to get an agile 7 string with a maple board, neck through, 28" scale, trans-black flamed maple top... now i´ll have to wait and see what happens with this, because i´d rather get this! :P

[B36arin]

Originally Posted by MF_Kitten

am i the only one that keeps refreshing in the hope of more people signing up for the "interested" thread? :P

i want this... and all my fellow GASers know how this feels! :P

i was going to get an agile 7 string with a maple board, neck through, 28" scale, trans-black flamed maple top... now i´ll have to wait and see what happens with this, because i´d rather get this! :P

Get both

[Celiak]

Originally Posted by MF_Kitten

am i the only one that keeps refreshing in the hope of more people signing up for the "interested" thread? :P

i want this... and all my fellow GASers know how this feels! :P

i was going to get an agile 7 string with a maple board, neck through, 28" scale, trans-black flamed maple top... now i´ll have to wait and see what happens with this, because i´d rather get this! :P

Your not the only one :P. I would much rather have this than the RG 2228.

[ShawnFjellstad]

we decided on a scale length, yeah?
28" or something along that line?

[darren]

The specs on the mockup have now been updated to reflect the latest in our ongoing discussions.

[ShawnFjellstad]

okay, thanks a lot.