Omen 8-Good First 8?

Van Heezey · 04-24-2011, 09:27 PM

I have an opportunity to get one of these for even cheaper than the low price it already is. Do you think for someone looking to simply expand their range, that this would be a good guitar? Reasons why or why not are greatly appreciated

Origin · 04-24-2011, 09:31 PM

All I've owned that's similar is an Omen-7, but it was a great guitar for the price. It was beat to shit and wouldn't stop working, and was very agreeable with setups etc. If the 8 version is like it, I'd go for it if the price is right.

neozeke · 04-24-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

All I've owned that's similar is an Omen-7, but it was a great guitar for the price. It was beat to shit and wouldn't stop working, and was very agreeable with setups etc. If the 8 version is like it, I'd go for it if the price is right.

My first electric was an Omen-6 and I had just about the same results. It's beat to hell but it's still playing fine.

Eric Christian · 04-24-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Van Heezey

I have an opportunity to get one of these for even cheaper than the low price it already is. Do you think for someone looking to simply expand their range, that this would be a good guitar? Reasons why or why not are greatly appreciated

I wouldn't bother unless you really have super low expectations regarding playability and your guitars actually staying in tune. I'd save up for a bit longer and get at least a 2011 Ibanez RGA8 at a minimum. The locking bridge and nut system works great and the neck is real nice. All it really needs is a pickup swap.

rekab · 04-24-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Christian

I wouldn't bother unless you really have super low expectations regarding playability and your guitars actually staying in tune. I'd save up for a bit longer and get at least a 2011 Ibanez RGA8 at a minimum. The locking bridge and nut system works great and the neck is real nice. All it really needs is a pickup swap.

I completely disagree.

A Damien Elite 8 or Agile 8 are both cheaper than the Ibanez with better stock pickups and comparable (some may say better) build quality. The omen 8 is fine for any beginner. If you're a seasoned player it may likely be inferior to what you are used to but otherwise it is a completely useable and decent guitar. The pickups suck in it but for half the price of an RGA at least you could afford to swap pickups. If you want to try the best 8 you can find for well under 500$ the omen is the way to go. If you can swing a bit more try the Damien elite or an agile.

Van Heezey · 04-25-2011, 09:24 AM

Yeah, the ibanez is not really in it for me. I have a wasburn wm series
(Not the USA custom lol). What is the quality in comparison to that? I figured some of you guys have tried these. And I've also tried some omen 6ers at a local shop, and they felt super solid.

ShadowFactoryX · 04-25-2011, 09:33 AM

Good insight on this guitar.
I've been on the fence of getting one myself.
I'd like to save for and agile as well, but im still fresh in guitaring.
But regardless, its not like im not going to like the extra range.
I work just fine with a 7 (even though all my standard 6 friends are like WTF 7?!?!?!)

Though, correct me, but isnt the scale on the omen 8 26.5, and the damien is only 25.5?
I'm probly wrong, but i swear i saw that somewhere.

Van Heezey · 04-25-2011, 09:39 AM

I believe all schecter 8's have the 26.5" scale length. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

rekab · 04-25-2011, 02:52 PM

All schecter 8s are 26.5" scale.
The omen 8 is alot like the omen 6/7. They have cheaper hardware, woods, and pickups and therefore can be sold cheaper. Are they terrible? No. Are they good for beginners who are tight on cash? Absolutely. The necks will be playable for anyone who likes schecter 7 string necks and the price won't kill you. There are better options but this'll do to get you started.

pattonfreak1 · 04-25-2011, 03:28 PM

I recently purchased an Omen 8 and it is satisfactory. My main gripe of course is the pickups. But for the money I am definitely pleased.

Lucas_061287 · 04-25-2011, 05:40 PM

Interested in one of these as well, primarily to see if I like playing on an 8 or not. For $400, its hard to resist. Of course, I'd opt for the walnut finish.

ShadowFactoryX · 04-26-2011, 10:17 AM

Thanks rekab,
I'd also go for the walnut finish.

Also, anyone that has one, what's so bad about the pickups?
And are the sized for emg's?

Konfyouzd · 04-26-2011, 10:18 AM

Well any first 8 is a good 8 in that you've made the right decision...

Now let's get down to details. Yes. I say do it if you can get it cheap and are interested in checking out ERGs. The worst that can happen is you use the extra range less than you use the rest.

Slowly but surely you figure out what *you* want to do with it. Also, an Omen7 was almost my first 7.

ian14892 · 04-26-2011, 12:03 PM

I was thinking about posting a thread like this too.

The Walnut finish Omen 8 looks sick and is so cheap that its tempting me to jump right from a 6 to an 8 haha.I have an old Schecter 006 elite and it's awesome, so no complaints with Schecter quality.

I'm debating whether to get the $500 Agile Pendulum 72527 or the Schecter Omen 8 this summer haha.

....

OH Imagine how cool this would be!

a Schecter 008

GuitaristOfHell · 04-26-2011, 12:07 PM

I had the Omen-7. Thing was ....ing beast. You could not knock that thing out of tune if you tried. Lemme put it like this it was dropped on HARD TILE flooring. Neck was still solid as a rock on there, and the tuning barely changed. If its anything like the Omen-7 GET IT. I regret ever selling mine. For the price point it can not be beat.

rekab · 04-26-2011, 01:08 PM

Yes the pickups are EMG size for the above who asked

ShadowFactoryX · 04-26-2011, 02:31 PM

What are some good affordable pickups to swap for them?
Especially passive

troyguitar · 04-26-2011, 02:36 PM

The only affordable passives that will fit without any other mods would be EMG-40HZ's.

rekab · 04-26-2011, 07:38 PM

The new Dimarzio Dactivator 8 is out this month I believe. It will just require a set of pickup rings from fretsonthenet.com ($16 or so)

ShadowFactoryX · 04-27-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by troyguitar

The only affordable passives that will fit without any other mods would be EMG-40HZ's.

How do these fair? I havent done much research on them.

also, Dactivator8's would be great!

troyguitar · 04-27-2011, 01:21 PM

No clue, I've never even seen one let alone heard one. The active it's based on is the 40CS which is a good pickup.

kevdes93 · 04-28-2011, 07:22 PM

i have an omen 8. its a good solid inexpensive guitar. i got it mainly so i can experiment and see if its really for me and i love it. time to upgrade! think of the omen 8 as the first step in a nice long career of extended rangeness! :P

ShadowFactoryX · 04-29-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kevdes93

i have an omen 8. its a good solid inexpensive guitar. i got it mainly so i can experiment and see if its really for me and i love it. time to upgrade! think of the omen 8 as the first step in a nice long career of extended rangeness! :P

I think it will be my first step too.
Thanks for all the info!

TwitTheShred · 07-15-2011, 07:16 AM

Mine arived today. it is a super nice guitar, the neck isn't baseball bat like atall. the only problems i have with it are the heel, the stock strings and the pick up switch placement. the pick ups arnt fantastic but they are livable. The walnut Satin finish is beautiful.

ShadowFactoryX · 07-15-2011, 07:34 AM

yeah that 3WS is oddly placed, i could get used to it though.
How bad are the pickups really?

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04-24-2011, 09:27 PM	#1
Van Heezey ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lewes, DE Posts: 121 Thanked: 10 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Omen 8-Good First 8? I have an opportunity to get one of these for even cheaper than the low price it already is. Do you think for someone looking to simply expand their range, that this would be a good guitar? Reasons why or why not are greatly appreciated

04-24-2011, 09:31 PM	#2
Origin Rainbow In The Dark Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,571 Thanked: 10 Feedback Score: 16 reviews	All I've owned that's similar is an Omen-7, but it was a great guitar for the price. It was beat to shit and wouldn't stop working, and was very agreeable with setups etc. If the 8 version is like it, I'd go for it if the price is right. Praise the sun!

04-25-2011, 09:33 AM	#7
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,276 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good insight on this guitar. I've been on the fence of getting one myself. I'd like to save for and agile as well, but im still fresh in guitaring. But regardless, its not like im not going to like the extra range. I work just fine with a 7 (even though all my standard 6 friends are like WTF 7?!?!?!) Though, correct me, but isnt the scale on the omen 8 26.5, and the damien is only 25.5? I'm probly wrong, but i swear i saw that somewhere. I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

04-25-2011, 02:52 PM	#9
rekab SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW TX Posts: 762 Thanked: 39 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	All schecter 8s are 26.5" scale. The omen 8 is alot like the omen 6/7. They have cheaper hardware, woods, and pickups and therefore can be sold cheaper. Are they terrible? No. Are they good for beginners who are tight on cash? Absolutely. The necks will be playable for anyone who likes schecter 7 string necks and the price won't kill you. There are better options but this'll do to get you started. ShadowFactoryX and GuitaristOfHell like this.

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04-25-2011, 09:24 AM	#6
Van Heezey ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lewes, DE Posts: 121 Thanked: 10 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, the ibanez is not really in it for me. I have a wasburn wm series (Not the USA custom lol). What is the quality in comparison to that? I figured some of you guys have tried these. And I've also tried some omen 6ers at a local shop, and they felt super solid.

04-25-2011, 09:39 AM	#8
Van Heezey ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lewes, DE Posts: 121 Thanked: 10 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I believe all schecter 8's have the 26.5" scale length. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

04-25-2011, 03:28 PM	#10
pattonfreak1 food librarian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 146 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I recently purchased an Omen 8 and it is satisfactory. My main gripe of course is the pickups. But for the money I am definitely pleased.

04-25-2011, 05:40 PM	#11
Lucas_061287 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 239 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interested in one of these as well, primarily to see if I like playing on an 8 or not. For $400, its hard to resist. Of course, I'd opt for the walnut finish. "To lead and to fulfill the plebeians' desires, to corrupt and subvert. I need but to despise the very substance of truth and define what is right." -Sybreed, A.E.O.N

04-26-2011, 10:17 AM	#12
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,276 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks rekab, I'd also go for the walnut finish. Also, anyone that has one, what's so bad about the pickups? And are the sized for emg's? I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

04-26-2011, 10:18 AM	#13
Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 15,507 Thanked: 191 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Well any first 8 is a good 8 in that you've made the right decision... Now let's get down to details. Yes. I say do it if you can get it cheap and are interested in checking out ERGs. The worst that can happen is you use the extra range less than you use the rest. Slowly but surely you figure out what you want to do with it. Also, an Omen7 was almost my first 7. "... and on either side of the river was the tree of life. The leaves of this tree were for the healing of nations." "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the service of man." "Lifes too short to hate Floyd Roses."

04-26-2011, 12:03 PM	#14
ian14892 ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Waverly, NY Posts: 97 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was thinking about posting a thread like this too. The Walnut finish Omen 8 looks sick and is so cheap that its tempting me to jump right from a 6 to an 8 haha.I have an old Schecter 006 elite and it's awesome, so no complaints with Schecter quality. I'm debating whether to get the $500 Agile Pendulum 72527 or the Schecter Omen 8 this summer haha. .... OH Imagine how cool this would be! a Schecter 008

04-26-2011, 12:07 PM	#15
GuitaristOfHell The Optimist Prime. Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Long Beach or Saugerties Posts: 4,157 Thanked: 129 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I had the Omen-7. Thing was ....ing beast. You could not knock that thing out of tune if you tried. Lemme put it like this it was dropped on HARD TILE flooring. Neck was still solid as a rock on there, and the tuning barely changed. If its anything like the Omen-7 GET IT. I regret ever selling mine. For the price point it can not be beat. If You're selling a Gibson Explorer PM Me! Proud gear owner of: Schecter V-1 ATX with passive duncans Takamine EG 431 SC (something like that) 1994 Peavey bandit 112 combo/ head Hughes and Kettner 4x12 Boss GT8 MXR ZW OD and that's all folks!

04-26-2011, 01:08 PM	#16
rekab SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW TX Posts: 762 Thanked: 39 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yes the pickups are EMG size for the above who asked ShadowFactoryX likes this.

04-26-2011, 02:36 PM	#18
troyguitar SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bloomsburg, PA Posts: 7,389 Thanked: 63 $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 10 reviews	The only affordable passives that will fit without any other mods would be EMG-40HZ's. American Metal with real singing!

04-27-2011, 01:21 PM	#21
troyguitar SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bloomsburg, PA Posts: 7,389 Thanked: 63 $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $troyguitar is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 10 reviews	No clue, I've never even seen one let alone heard one. The active it's based on is the 40CS which is a good pickup. American Metal with real singing!

04-26-2011, 02:31 PM	#17
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,276 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What are some good affordable pickups to swap for them? Especially passive I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

04-26-2011, 07:38 PM	#19
rekab SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW TX Posts: 762 Thanked: 39 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	The new Dimarzio Dactivator 8 is out this month I believe. It will just require a set of pickup rings from fretsonthenet.com ($16 or so)

04-28-2011, 07:22 PM	#22
kevdes93 SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pittsfield, MA Posts: 890 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i have an omen 8. its a good solid inexpensive guitar. i got it mainly so i can experiment and see if its really for me and i love it. time to upgrade! think of the omen 8 as the first step in a nice long career of extended rangeness! :P "Tune it low, play it slow!" Good deals with: abswisher - brutalwizard - Toxic Dover - oneblackened - Garloof

07-15-2011, 07:34 AM	#25
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,276 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah that 3WS is oddly placed, i could get used to it though. How bad are the pickups really? I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

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