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Unread 01-22-2011, 04:51 PM   #26
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You know, if someone gets an ERG for chugging, that's okay. They're using one of the unique qualities of the instrument to their advantage. We have to be careful not to turn into the kind of people this thread is about!

I think true progression in music comes from using instruments in ways they weren't specifically designed for.

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Unread 01-22-2011, 04:56 PM   #27
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Boy, am I glad that I in my early teens took the firm decision to never stop being interested in what's new and hot - due to my parent's never being interested in anything new (no pun on them). These days they just about only care about Deutche Schlager Paraden

I'm 53 now, play hard rock, progressive metal, progressive jazz fusion, love classical, ethnic, african drums, arab and indian music, bebob jazz...
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Unread 01-22-2011, 05:15 PM   #28
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Arkanedemon, sounds like you work with a bunch of ....ing idiots. Aka: Dim witted ....s.
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You know, if someone gets an ERG for chugging, that's okay. They're using one of the unique qualities of the instrument to their advantage. We have to be careful not to turn into the kind of people this thread is about!

I think true progression in music comes from using instruments in ways they weren't specifically designed for.

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Any prejudice to ERGs exist because 7 string guitars are a gateway instrument. You get that extra string, then you are fine for a while, then you think I need to go deeper. Then you get an 8ths string, but you still are satisfied, this one doesn't have the high that last one did. So you get another, and another. Next thing you know string changes cost more than the guitar did, because you have a 25/40" fanned fret 15 string guitar.
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Unread 01-22-2011, 05:24 PM   #31
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Let's face it: most music stores are like the book stores you go into with a "staff picks" section featuring Twilight, Dan Brown, and cook books. It's a retail store staffed with retail people, and only 10% of the people working at these establishments are there because they care/know about/have an open mind about the product.

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Unread 01-22-2011, 05:29 PM   #32
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Arkanedemon, sounds like you work with a bunch of ....ing idiots. Aka: Dim witted ....s.
Only when it comes to music. They always throw around the quote "different strokes for different folks" unless it's something they don't like, in which case the thing sucks. It defies the point of throwing the quote around.

They're pretty cool guys otherwise. The only difference is that when I don't like something of theirs, I keep my mouth shut. They don't. When fifteen year olds come into the store and plug in a guitar and start playing drop D metalcore-type riffs, they always say "why don't you go talk to that guy, maybe you can start a band with him!" Even though I told them repeatedly I don't like that stuff, to which they come back with "but it's metal," like that's what all of metal encompasses.

Another story: so I was sitting around with the one guy, and we're talking about Kijiji (we both use it to find bands, musicians, etc). He says "man, I don't understand how you find musicians." I was a bit curious, so I asked him what he meant. "It's because your genre is a joke! *laugh*"
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Unread 01-22-2011, 05:35 PM   #33
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Only when it comes to music. They always throw around the quote "different strokes for different folks" unless it's something they don't like, in which case the thing sucks. It defies the point of throwing the quote around.

They're pretty cool guys otherwise. The only difference is that when I don't like something of theirs, I keep my mouth shut. They don't. When fifteen year olds come into the store and plug in a guitar and start playing drop D metalcore-type riffs, they always say "why don't you go talk to that guy, maybe you can start a band with him!" Even though I told them repeatedly I don't like that stuff, to which they come back with "but it's metal," like that's what all of metal encompasses.

Another story: so I was sitting around with the one guy, and we're talking about Kijiji (we both use it to find bands, musicians, etc). He says "man, I don't understand how you find musicians." I was a bit curious, so I asked him what he meant. "It's because your genre is a joke! *laugh*"

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That's really rude, stupid, and inconsiderate. .... stupid people. [/low_tolerance_of_douchebaggery]
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Unread 01-22-2011, 05:36 PM   #34
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I laughed until my stomach hurt from that video when I first watched it. The difference between that video, and the people I work with is that the people I work are genuinely hostile to anything that isn't traditional. Hostile to the point where I just want to walk away from the place.

The one time (a bit off topic), the two were talking about bringing back psychedelic music, and the one said "we'll just wait until all the metalheads die out so we can bring it back." I was so close to punching the guy in the mouth.
Not to get off topic but there is tons and tons of new psychedelic style rock out there if they would just care to look for it.

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^ Holy .... that hammer is awesome. But I think I want to get a third fist on there, you know, to get more range.


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Unread 01-22-2011, 05:49 PM   #38
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I remember years ago how people would look at me like I was a retard when I was trying to poece together strings sets for my 7 10 or so years ago. Just ignorance. Actually the last time I got strings for my 8 locally they were quite interested in it, though.
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Is my guitar meant to be a midrange instrument? I didn't know that! The warning labels must have been removed by someone else before I got it! *laugh*

Seriously, though, *who* intended guitar to be a midrange instrument? And, if intentions have weight, wasn't it intended to be an acoustic instrument, with gut strings? *laugh*
This is an excellent point. If I were to rewrite that post, I'd replace "meant to be" with "sounds best to my totally awesome ears as."

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I also follow the examples and playing of Leo Nocentelli, and use my instruments to do a style of funky interlocking bass/guitar parts.

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Curses, foiled again. Yousa point is well-taken. Just... please keep in mind that I'm not trying to tell you what you can and can't do. If you come up with something that sounds good to me that does away with actually having bassists in the band, hell, more power to you! I just tend to think in terms of (read: vaguely influenced by) common-practice period part-writing, where the instruments are not supposed to invade one another's ranges. And yes, I do have the knowledge of tonal harmony to know what that means. For the most part. *chuckle*

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Last bassist we had was a 4 stringer. It actually sounded great with him moving around in higher octaves than us while we played in A or C.

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No offense to anyone, but this guy is EXACTLY how I view middle aged people in the south. Completely closed off to anything that they don't know, basically the most ignorant people on planet earth. The kind of people that can't find the USA on a map of the earth. The kind of people that still think a '67 Camaro is the fastest car ever made even though by today's standards, it's a slow pig.

I don't even have a seven string, let alone an eight, but this kind of thinking is so annoying. If everybody thought this way we'd still be running around in animal hides chasing things with spears and rocks.
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Yeah, but how ....ing metal would that be?
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Yeah, but how ....ing metal would that be?
Yeah, that's true

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oh theres a second video that cements his opinion...



Love how the 1st clip is Broderick playing a 7...

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He's obviously trolling, and it's actually funny. Particularly since Broderick's sound in that tapping clip is pretty damn awful.

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theres another one where he got a triple neck, he curses the gods on that one hahaha

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Yeah, but how ....ing metal would that be?
Not nearly as metal as verbally blast beating and wearing corpsepaint while hunting. Going up to a deer looking like Gaahl while yelling BRATATATATATATATATA and throwing a spear right through the deer's left eye. Can't possibly get more metal than that.
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Bottom line is a certain percentage of people like to sit around and complain and shit that doesn't really have any effect on them. Generally, I've found that they are shallow and empty individuals that typically lead really boring lives. They like to try to start arguments about stuff like politics and religion because they are just really unhappy people. The best policy is to just isolate and ignore or perhaps just smile & nod. If they put you on the spot always say you don't know enough about the subject to form an opinion then politely excuse yourself to the restroom.
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