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Old 05-06-2008, 03:56 AM   #101 (permalink)
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i'm not exactly certain how a trigger is used. is it placed inside the drum and sends a signal whenever the attack hits?

i understand the concept of triggers but do not understand their application on the drumset. or are they even used on the drumseT?
Triggers are simply pads that clamp onto drums and have a pad that rest on the head of the drum. Every time the drum head feels a vibration, the trigger creates the sound. On the trigger modules, you can set the sensitivity to be kinda touchy to get more dynamics, or what some metal guys do is set the sensitivity (velocity on some modules) all the way up, so no matter how hard they hit the drum, they get the full volume every time. It allows for quicker, softer playing while maintaining a consistent mix out every hit.
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Old 05-06-2008, 05:57 AM   #102 (permalink)
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...and can also be used to control noise gates so you dont get the cymbals bleeding in to the tom mics, which I think is coooool. Plus loads of other stuff, check out the earlier posts by JB.

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Old 05-06-2008, 06:31 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Triggers are simply pads that clamp onto drums and have a pad that rest on the head of the drum. Every time the drum head feels a vibration, the trigger creates the sound. On the trigger modules, you can set the sensitivity to be kinda touchy to get more dynamics, or what some metal guys do is set the sensitivity (velocity on some modules) all the way up, so no matter how hard they hit the drum, they get the full volume every time. It allows for quicker, softer playing while maintaining a consistent mix out every hit.
Well, the trigger doesn't really make the sound. It just sends a signal saying "Hey, this asshole fucking hit me!". The module is what makes the sound (if you're doing sound replacement *This statement is here to appease Jeff*)
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That's much better, JJ. (JJ want a pair of panties from the vending machine? JJ want a pair of panties from the vending machine? Good pervert...)

Basically, think of a trigger track as just a pad on a drum machine - it can do gazillions of different things, from setting off samples to cutting off or changing sounds or whatever. You can essentially get the flexibility of a drum pad out of a full kit, and I posted on the applications earlier.

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Old 05-08-2008, 05:52 AM   #106 (permalink)
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i like triggered kick sound through monitors live.
If the stage sound is shit (such as festivals etc) its REALLY Helpful to hear what you're doing with this.
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Actually, triggers are good. There's a lot of weird techniques and jazzy things when done at speed that you just can't pick up, and just won't punch through, and for those sounds when it dips, you need triggers.

However, snare+kick only really, nothing else, AND you should always have the natural sound mixed with the trigger sound, so when it does go quieter (at speed) the trigger is more dominant, but when hitting like a mofo the natural sound is more dominant.

Also, triggering isn't cheating, you still have to hit it at the right time, otherwise it'll be out, there's no correction, and it is still played. But for some things, you just need triggers if you are playing extreme fast stuff.

But you need that blend to be right, fully triggered kits are just a bit, well, meh sounding.
Pretty much how I feel about them. The only time a trigger annoys me, is when the bass drums sound all clicky.
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That happens just as easily with a natural drum. Boosting between 1-4K makes anything sound like a typewriter. It has little to do with triggers.

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How would you recommend EQing kick drums (and since Im asking, toms) to get closer to this sort of sound? YouTube - Arch Enemy Drum Solo...Live!...(Daniel Erlandsson) Definitely one of my favourite drummers.
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How would you recommend EQing kick drums (and since Im asking, toms) to get closer to this sort of sound? YouTube - Arch Enemy Drum Solo...Live!...(Daniel Erlandsson) Definitely one of my favourite drummers.
Lots of clicky treble and get rid of all the low mids basically, I'm not gonna start throwing numbers around because the best way is to use your ears, and learn how to use them to identify frequencies. Then using eq is pretty simple.
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