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Old 11-30-2007, 08:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Most "blast beat" drumming I've heard doesn't sound very "fluid" at all, and Derek Roddy is no exception. Just my

But JJ's right, jabs like that don't really contribute to anything.
What are you talking about Roddy has the best and most fluid blasts of anybody, he just came out with a book on blasts. Yeah Tim is a cool guy too, I dont like the Divine Heresy stuff really. I liked his playing on Decrepit Birth's first album.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What are you talking about Roddy has the best and most fluid blasts of anybody, he just came out with a book on blasts. Yeah Tim is a cool guy too, I dont like the Divine Heresy stuff really. I liked his playing on Decrepit Birth's first album.
Well in his defense, writing a book about blast beats doesn't really change his opinion on whether or not they sound fluid or not But I do think that you can make a blast beat sound smooth and groovy with cymbal work and what not, which is what I really like about Roddy's blasts.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Well in his defense, writing a book about blast beats doesn't really change his opinion on whether or not they sound fluid or not But I do think that you can make a blast beat sound smooth and groovy with cymbal work and what not, which is what I really like about Roddy's blasts.
I was simply stating that blast beat style playing/machine gun kick playing isn't very fluid sounding 99.999%. Roddy is one of the most well rounded of that style drummer though, admittedly, his chops cannot be denied, and his cymbal work is really smooth.

That said, Tim has a very robotic style but it seems to work for the projects I've seen him in. To jam with, that guys gotta be like a friggin' human metronome.

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Old 12-01-2007, 12:48 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Well in his defense, writing a book about blast beats doesn't really change his opinion on whether or not they sound fluid or not But I do think that you can make a blast beat sound smooth and groovy with cymbal work and what not, which is what I really like about Roddy's blasts.
Basically what I am trying to say is that not only does he have the blast beat down but he also has total knowledge of what is going on musically, and he is one of the only drummers out there to really research and explain what blas beats are, I know Flo had his instructional stuff but that just shows you how to blast wheras Roddy is explaining all the types of blasts and gets them written down. I don't think blasts can get more fluid than Roddy's.
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Nice, Am I the only one who hates when drummers fucking just play open hats all the time?

Also didn't tim most recently play with All that remains?
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roddy's blasts are far more technical. he's seriously the most independent / ambidextrous extreme drummer out there, while being among THE fastest, regardless of how clean and consistent he is (which, again, he's amongst the top in those categories as well). He's untouchable.

there are so many youtubes of roddy alternating doing 16th note rolls between left hand/right foot, right hand/left foot, lh/lf, rf/rf, etc. all the while doing so at extreme speeds (+250bpm), WHILE doing some weird shit with his "spare" foot (such as, accents and clave patterns on a foot-mounted ribbon crasher), and spare hand (accents on various cymbals, between riding hats/rides). He's completely insane. Oh, he's powerful too. He can kill you untriggered, plus do this stuff with jazzy fills, lots of dynamics, etc.

But, for Hate Eternal, my favorite is still Conquering The Throne, they're debut album, with drums by Tim Yeung. Simple playing, a tad slower by today's standard, but HEAVY, and pummeling.

This is strictly a subjective taste kinda thing, but I like to describe their two styles as Tim doing 230-240 body blows per minute to your midsection with closed fists, while Derek favoring 250 open handed slaps per minute, to your face. I favor the body shots.... Not as abrasive and extreme, but more impact, IMO.
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Tim yeung is bruce lee and his drum kit is that underground opium ring thing with the guy that puts the claw on.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:13 AM   #28 (permalink)
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totallybr00tals posts are fucking outstanding i be he posts on youtube a lot haha.

i like Tims drumming my friend who is an outstanding drummer himself is a big fan of roddy but iv never really listened to anythign with him on it. maybe i should pick up some hate eternal
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Defintely man. Derrick roddy is a great drummer, and love his polyrhythmic stuff within a blast context.
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