[Drew]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKwLK...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH-g9...elated&search=

[The Dark Wolf]

I used to play with a drummer who was Danny Carey's biggest fan. Dude was a damn good drummer. Damn good.


To bad he was frickin' insane, practically.

Danny Carey is way too good for that band.

[Drew]

Au contraire, le Wolf of less-than-vibrant exterior, Tool kicks ass.

[The Dark Wolf]

They may, but they aren't very technical or... I dunno. They lack something. They are all mediocre, whereas DC is very good.

I'm not a Tool fan.

[Drew]

You're missing out, bro. Download the title track of Lateralus off iTunes or something - if you don't like it, I'll mail you the $.99 you lost on it.

The thing with Tool is Adam Jones is really more of a second bassist than a guitarist... Taken like that, their music makes a lot more sense. Also, Maynard James Keenan is a phenominal lyricist - the only thing that could make "Eulogy" any better is if it was written after Creed broke out.

[The Dark Wolf]

I have Lateralus. It's eh. Hey, who are you to tell me! You like Ulrich Schnauss!

I think the guitar player and the singer are mediocre. Kind of bland. The bass player has good tone... I can't say much beyond that. He's not bad, I guess.

[zimbloth]

I love Tool, but I actually prefer A Perfect Circle even more. Totally different sound I realize, but I think that's Maynards best work in terms of singing (not necessarily lyrics). I also like the less dense, more melodic sound APC puts out. That being said, Undertow and Aenima are both epic albums.

[ChaNce]

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

I have Lateralus. It's eh. Hey, who are you to tell me! You like Ulrich Schnauss!

I think the guitar player and the singer are mediocre. Kind of bland. The bass player has good tone... I can't say much beyond that. He's not bad, I guess.

Seriously, I read comments like this and wonder how its possible that we live on the same planet. Maynard bland? Adam bland? Not technical?

Dude, did you listen? I mean really listen? Maynard is one of the most copied yet least imitated singers since Robert Plant. Adam's guitar parts are always perfect, subtly difficult, yet sound easy, and are never overplayed. Justin Chancellor is a MONSTER bass player, and both he and Adam overlap so well that their sound is totally unique.

When I hear comments like this, I find it hard to believe that the commenter made more than a cursory listen, because it's just not honestly possible to listen to Tool and not be blown away by the musicianship, band interplay, and technical ability. And they CRUSH live.

There isn't a serious metal band in the world that doesn't owe something to Tool. Everyone from the least serious musicians (the dursts and the stapps of the world) to the most technically masterful bands (Meshuggah, for example) cite Tool as an influence.

I mean, cmon, opinions are nice, but they aren't all equivalent. More to the point, to the extent that individuals are judged by the quality of their opinions, ones credibility comes into question when that individual's opinions are obtuse.

[Leon]

Tool is the reason i bought my RG7621. therefore, Tool is the greatest band on the planet

[The Dark Wolf]

Originally Posted by ChaNce

I mean, cmon, opinions are nice, but they aren't all equivalent. More to the point, to the extent that individuals are judged by the quality of their opinions, ones credibility comes into question when that individual's opinions are obtuse.

Wow, I just got pwned by a newb.

Listen, man. I HAVE THEIR FUCKING ALBUMS! I didn't say I hate them, but they honestly do not impress me very much, outside of Danny Carey's drumming.

A. Maynard's voice is just so-so. It's a bit monotone for my tastes. MY TASTES.

B. The guitar work isn't very impressive to me. I prefer more technical playing, generally speaking, or something that is more emotive. From Jimmy page, to Dimebag, to Segovia, to Wes Montgomery, to Jeff Loomis, to Willie Nelson, to Prince, I find Tool's guitar playing is somewhat monotonous and bland in comparison. I am a fan of so many different types of music, so please, don't insult my tastes or intelligence again. I've studied classical guitar at the university level, I listen to all kinds of jazz, country, metal, rock, funk, blues, and experimental players... the point is, just because I don't worship at the altar of your idols, doesn't mean my opinion is invalid.

Originally Posted by ChaNce

because it's just not honestly possible to listen to Tool and not be blown away by the musicianship, band interplay, and technical ability.

See, here's where you made your mistake. I disagree completely. I am thoroughly un-blown. Don't paint me into a corner of saying I hate Tool... I don't. But they don't even come close to impressing me on the same level they apparently do you, regardless of who cites them as an influence. Yngwie could cite a purple baboon's ass as an influence, but that isn't going to change my opinion of him for good or ill. (But it might explain his fashion sense. ) Which is fine with me. It seems you are the only one who has a problem with that fact. You may question my credibility all you like. I seriously doubt it will affect either A) my standing amongst my friends here, or B) my own belief in my personal infalliblity.



BTW, you don't need to persue this ad nauseum. You have your opinion, I have mine. Respect that.