Do these drums sound fake

dbarnett191 · 06-08-2012, 03:02 PM

My band released a new demo not long ago. Our vocalist boyfriend, Navene Koperweis did all the mixing/mastering. His samples on the drums, tell me if you dig!

rgaRyan · 06-08-2012, 03:40 PM

He drummed for AaL, right?
They sound really tight, almost unnatural...
But I still dig it!

ZEBOV · 06-08-2012, 03:51 PM

Vocalist boyfriend? Do you mean his girlfriend is the vocalist?
I'm a fan of loud bass, but the bass is too much for me, and I'm dominantly a bass player.
either turn the guitars and maybe the vox up, or turn drums and bass down.
Musically, it's super tight!

klinic · 06-09-2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEBOV

Vocalist boyfriend? Do you mean his girlfriend is the vocalist?

His boyfriend could be the vocalist, it's not our place to have any opinion on that.

Unless it is a girl. Then our opinion is HOLY SHIT BALLS BRUTAL VOCALS!

K3V1N SHR3DZ · 06-09-2012, 04:01 AM

I thought it sounded killer on my speakers.
However, the kicks sound fake as hell on my headphones (Beyerdynamic DT770PRO).
I don't mean Rings Of Saturn level fake, but fake.

However, 99.8% of regular people will never notice!

ZEBOV · 06-09-2012, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinic

His boyfriend could be the vocalist, it's not our place to have any opinion on that.

Unless it is a girl. Then our opinion is HOLY SHIT BALLS BRUTAL VOCALS!

When I saw AAL last August, his super hot gf was selling merch. Maybe they're not together anymore and Navene is bi or turned gay. Or maybe that girl is the vocalist!

After listening to this through my Sennheiser HD380 headphones, the kick sounds very fake. It could use some work.

CyborgSlunk · 06-09-2012, 06:07 AM

So what if the kick sounds fake, it sounds good and it fits the mix very well.

Uncreative123 · 06-11-2012, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEBOV

When I saw AAL last August, his super hot gf was selling merch. Maybe they're not together anymore and Navene is bi or turned gay. Or maybe that girl is the vocalist!

After listening to this through my Sennheiser HD380 headphones, the kick sounds very fake. It could use some work.

It's her. Pics will be up on the Facebook page.....eventually.

ShadowFactoryX · 06-11-2012, 06:50 AM

im actually not a fan of the whole drum mix

kicks and toms especially, and the snare is really open sounding

but hey, if that is what you guys wanted, so be it!

Chromis · 06-11-2012, 01:26 PM

Awesome track dude!

I might suggest varying the velocities so that the drums sound a little more natural (esp. the kick), otherwise it sounds great

C.

Dan_Vacant · 06-13-2012, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEBOV

Vocalist boyfriend? Do you mean his girlfriend is the vocalist?
I'm a fan of loud bass, but the bass is too much for me, and I'm dominantly a bass player.
either turn the guitars and maybe the vox up, or turn drums and bass down.
Musically, it's super tight!

No how he had it is right well if you add a few grammatical corrections, Op is saying the boy friend of the vocalist is Navene.
"Our vocalist's boyfriend, Navene Koperweis, did all the mixing/mastering"
p.s. that is with the corrections

All_¥our_Bass · 06-13-2012, 07:00 PM

Everything's perfect to me, really.

Uncreative123 · 06-14-2012, 12:55 PM

I dunno, I still think this one sounds better:

iRaiseTheDead · 06-14-2012, 01:16 PM

It does sound a bit too tight but I can dig it :p

refusetofall87 · 07-06-2012, 08:23 PM

Drums sound a bit unnatural but still sounds good !

LaserLobotomy · 08-08-2012, 11:43 AM

I thought the mix sounded very tight, and the drums sounded fantastic, definitely passable as 'real' drums. I'm no audiophile, but I thought that was a great demo you have there

Coltron5k · 08-31-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LaserLobotomy

I thought the mix sounded very tight, and the drums sounded fantastic, definitely passable as 'real' drums. I'm no audiophile, but I thought that was a great demo you have there

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DarkWolfXV · 09-01-2012, 05:29 PM

It sounds good, but kick is fake-ish.

StewartEhoff · 09-25-2012, 07:50 AM

Indeed, the kick sounds pretty lifeless, as well as that short cymbal break around 0:17. To the untrained ear, you wouldn't know it was MIDI, though.

MF_Kitten · 09-28-2012, 06:00 AM

I can actually hear that that's a chick singing. The timbre (size of the throat, etc) gives it away. It still mostly sounds like a demon though, hahaha!

The drums sound alright, a little dry maybe, and could use some more punchyness. The drums are a bit too loud in the mix too.

The drums are a bit stiff-sounding too, like a machine is playing it. Which it is, kinda, but still

As a whole though, i'd say this sounds pretty damn good!

Krucifixtion · 09-29-2012, 02:46 AM

I don't mind if the drumming itself is a tad bit machine like, but I prefer the drums to have more tone to them. The songs are pretty cool. I can also tell it's a female vocalist. They just have a certain sound to their voice when they are trying to do growling stuff.

dingaling · 09-29-2012, 09:32 AM

I think the drums in the 2nd clip sound better for some reason. I agree that the kick velocities should be tweaked a bit if you are looking for a more natural sound. And the super fast snare fills sound a bit synthetic in there.

As far as people saying "I can hear it's a girl", I don't believe you. I feel like you're exhibiting a confirmation bias. She sounds ultra brutal, regardless.

Krucifixtion · 09-29-2012, 10:04 AM

The only female "Metal" vocalist that really threw me off when I first heard her was Angela from Arch Enemy. Females just tend to have a different Timbre to their voice even in that context.

dingaling · 09-29-2012, 10:13 AM

The reason I don't believe you is that dudes all have a different timbre within themselves, depending on the type of scream. You can have the ultra low, guttural, Mikael Akerfeldt thing, or the raspy, high, hardcore thing, or a million variations in between. It's ok to disagree, but I don't think anyone would have heard that right away and said "whoa, brutal chick vocalist" without being told such. But if your ears are just that good, then I'm happy for you. This is my opinion, and I hope you can see that I'm trying to express it respectfully. This is the last I'll say on the subject, as I don't want to start a flame war.

chickenxnuggetz91 · 10-04-2012, 05:10 PM

I got up without thinking about it and started doing a weird 2-step head bang. Not a bad song. Kick drum needs some tweaking.

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06-08-2012, 03:02 PM	#1
dbarnett191 Danny Barnett Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 8 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do these drums sound fake My band released a new demo not long ago. Our vocalist boyfriend, Navene Koperweis did all the mixing/mastering. His samples on the drums, tell me if you dig! Chromis likes this.

06-08-2012, 03:40 PM	#2
rgaRyan Ermahgerd! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Alberta Posts: 315 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He drummed for AaL, right? They sound really tight, almost unnatural... But I still dig it! My YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/RyanEnvy Bands covered include Textures, Scale the Summit, KSE, Red Seas Fire, August Burns Red, The Contortionist, As I Lay Dying, etc.

06-11-2012, 06:50 AM	#9
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,276 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im actually not a fan of the whole drum mix kicks and toms especially, and the snare is really open sounding but hey, if that is what you guys wanted, so be it! I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

06-13-2012, 07:00 PM	#12
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06-08-2012, 03:51 PM	#3
ZEBOV Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Suburbs of Memphis, TN Posts: 2,142 Thanked: 38 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Vocalist boyfriend? Do you mean his girlfriend is the vocalist? I'm a fan of loud bass, but the bass is too much for me, and I'm dominantly a bass player. either turn the guitars and maybe the vox up, or turn drums and bass down. Musically, it's super tight!

06-09-2012, 04:01 AM	#5
K3V1N SHR3DZ EMPERORoftheUNIVERSE Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: missouri Posts: 355 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I thought it sounded killer on my speakers. However, the kicks sound fake as hell on my headphones (Beyerdynamic DT770PRO). I don't mean Rings Of Saturn level fake, but fake. However, 99.8% of regular people will never notice!

06-09-2012, 06:07 AM	#7
CyborgSlunk SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Nürnberg, Germany Posts: 234 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So what if the kick sounds fake, it sounds good and it fits the mix very well.

06-11-2012, 01:26 PM	#10
Chromis ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kent, England Posts: 32 Thanked: 3 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Awesome track dude! I might suggest varying the velocities so that the drums sound a little more natural (esp. the kick), otherwise it sounds great C.

06-14-2012, 12:55 PM	#13
Uncreative123 SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 781 Thanked: 38 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I dunno, I still think this one sounds better:

06-14-2012, 01:16 PM	#14
iRaiseTheDead Ashes Of Rebirth Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,797 Thanked: 22 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	It does sound a bit too tight but I can dig it :p \m/ My Band: www.facebook.com/AshesOfRebirth My Soundcloud: (riffs and song ideas) www.soundcloud.com/iRaiseTheDead My Design Page: www.facebook.com/RaiseTheDeadDesign

07-06-2012, 08:23 PM	#15
refusetofall87 SS.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: the 215 Posts: 124 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Drums sound a bit unnatural but still sounds good !

08-08-2012, 11:43 AM	#16
LaserLobotomy ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ti Posts: 18 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought the mix sounded very tight, and the drums sounded fantastic, definitely passable as 'real' drums. I'm no audiophile, but I thought that was a great demo you have there Coltron5k likes this.

09-01-2012, 05:29 PM	#18
DarkWolfXV Excised n anatomised Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 601 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It sounds good, but kick is fake-ish.

09-25-2012, 07:50 AM	#19
StewartEhoff ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 60 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Indeed, the kick sounds pretty lifeless, as well as that short cymbal break around 0:17. To the untrained ear, you wouldn't know it was MIDI, though.

09-28-2012, 06:00 AM	#20
MF_Kitten Fully Ramblomatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 8,986 Thanked: 298 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can actually hear that that's a chick singing. The timbre (size of the throat, etc) gives it away. It still mostly sounds like a demon though, hahaha! The drums sound alright, a little dry maybe, and could use some more punchyness. The drums are a bit too loud in the mix too. The drums are a bit stiff-sounding too, like a machine is playing it. Which it is, kinda, but still As a whole though, i'd say this sounds pretty damn good! drmosh likes this. -------------------------------------- What will metal be doing in ten years? What ever Meshuggah will be doing in two. -Anthony

09-29-2012, 02:46 AM	#21
Krucifixtion Duncan Hills Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Hamden, CT. Posts: 646 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't mind if the drumming itself is a tad bit machine like, but I prefer the drums to have more tone to them. The songs are pretty cool. I can also tell it's a female vocalist. They just have a certain sound to their voice when they are trying to do growling stuff.

09-29-2012, 09:32 AM	#22
dingaling Exploding Shark Chum Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 147 Thanked: 2 / 1 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I think the drums in the 2nd clip sound better for some reason. I agree that the kick velocities should be tweaked a bit if you are looking for a more natural sound. And the super fast snare fills sound a bit synthetic in there. As far as people saying "I can hear it's a girl", I don't believe you. I feel like you're exhibiting a confirmation bias. She sounds ultra brutal, regardless.

09-29-2012, 10:04 AM	#23
Krucifixtion Duncan Hills Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Hamden, CT. Posts: 646 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The only female "Metal" vocalist that really threw me off when I first heard her was Angela from Arch Enemy. Females just tend to have a different Timbre to their voice even in that context.

09-29-2012, 10:13 AM	#24
dingaling Exploding Shark Chum Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 147 Thanked: 2 / 1 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	The reason I don't believe you is that dudes all have a different timbre within themselves, depending on the type of scream. You can have the ultra low, guttural, Mikael Akerfeldt thing, or the raspy, high, hardcore thing, or a million variations in between. It's ok to disagree, but I don't think anyone would have heard that right away and said "whoa, brutal chick vocalist" without being told such. But if your ears are just that good, then I'm happy for you. This is my opinion, and I hope you can see that I'm trying to express it respectfully. This is the last I'll say on the subject, as I don't want to start a flame war.

10-04-2012, 05:10 PM	#25
chickenxnuggetz91 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Clinton, MS Posts: 122 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got up without thinking about it and started doing a weird 2-step head bang. Not a bad song. Kick drum needs some tweaking.

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