Drummer broke through drum head

Mysticlamp · 12-07-2011, 12:38 PM

he uses iron cobras and the head was a evans*, not sure if single or double ply and one of those sticker looking things where the heads hit, it also had one of those o muffle ring things. We just really started gigging so now that it is broken would it be ok to replace it with a similar set up or is there something better we can upgrade to?

Razzy · 12-07-2011, 12:43 PM

Experiment with different heads. I've found Remo heads to be my least favorite. I'm a big believer in the Evans Emad heads, unless using triggers, where I favor the Aquarian Super kick III.

Edited to add: The Remo kevlar bass drum patch is a must for getting the most longevity out of your bass drum head IMO.

Mysticlamp · 12-07-2011, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razzy

Experiment with different heads. I've found Remo heads to be my least favorite. I'm a big believer in the Evans Emad heads, unless using triggers, where I favor the Aquarian Super kick III.

Edited to add: The Remo kevlar bass drum patch is a must for getting the most longevity out of your bass drum head IMO.

i will definatly look into the patch, we don't use triggers so i guess. i'll look into trying different heads when we go

Mysticlamp · 12-07-2011, 04:50 PM

also how do i thank and/or rep on here?

SYLrules88 · 12-08-2011, 12:46 AM

look on the left side in the area where it tells the username, location, etc.. look at the bottom and look for the scales symbol inbetween the ! and the computers. click the scales and hopefully choose positive feedback hah.

also, yeah if your drummer is using anything other than felt beaters (hard rubber, wood) then the stick on kevlar patches are an absolute must! also +1 to the evans EMAD recommendation. ive had very good results with those heads in the past

jordanky · 12-08-2011, 02:12 AM

EMAD II!

ShadowFactoryX · 12-08-2011, 07:19 AM

HOLLLLLLLLD UP

how long has he had that bass head?
if its not that old of a head, tell him to ease up on the strokes, cause there's no need to assault your bass drum head that hard
heads are meant to take a beating.

if its just normal wear then thats quite alright

from personal experience, and plenty of usage from all kinds and brands of heads:
go with evans

that being said, I'd get an EMAD, or even a GMAD, both allow more controll of the attack and punch with the EQ ring.

now I've had their black double EQ patch, and I've used it consistently for year now, and i've had a few people tell me they hate them, but mine holds up super well, and does wonders for the sound.

Mysticlamp · 12-08-2011, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFactoryX

HOLLLLLLLLD UP

how long has he had that bass head?
if its not that old of a head, tell him to ease up on the strokes, cause there's no need to assault your bass drum head that hard
heads are meant to take a beating.

if its just normal wear then thats quite alright

from personal experience, and plenty of usage from all kinds and brands of heads:
go with evans

that being said, I'd get an EMAD, or even a GMAD, both allow more controll of the attack and punch with the EQ ring.

now I've had their black double EQ patch, and I've used it consistently for year now, and i've had a few people tell me they hate them, but mine holds up super well, and does wonders for the sound.

alright seems like emads are the way to go, we bought the kit used about 8 -14 months ago. i don't relaly remember

but the guy said he had owned the drums for a couple years. so i think they lasted pretty long

and i just looked at the broken head and it was an evans emad

so i guess we are just gettin another one

ShadowFactoryX · 12-08-2011, 01:28 PM

lol 8-14 months ago?
way to narrow it down

anyways, thats good, just go with the emad, they're great heads.
get a good patch for it

Mysticlamp · 12-08-2011, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFactoryX

lol 8-14 months ago?
way to narrow it down

anyways, thats good, just go with the emad, they're great heads.
get a good patch for it

yeah man that's just a rough estimate, it honestly could have been closer to 2 years ago

i can't remember dates to save my life. thanks for all the suggestions though idk if my rep counts for anything but you guys got it

MTech · 12-08-2011, 09:54 PM

Most big name artists and even drum head companies will tell you that Remo sound the best..the only problem is they don't last long and that's why there's other brands like Evans and Aquarian etc... I'd highly recommend the Aquarian Super Kick II

SYLrules88 · 12-15-2011, 11:59 PM

*also when you are adding to a persons rep, make sure you select "i approve" because it appears you accidentally selected "i disapprove" for my above post!

aquarian superkicks are also great, but in my experience, the EMAD lasts longer. not sure about how the prices compare between the two though. ive never used remo kick heads so cant comment on those.

envenomedcky · 12-16-2011, 10:19 AM

Aquarian Super Kick II > everything else.

Mysticlamp · 12-16-2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYLrules88

*also when you are adding to a persons rep, make sure you select "i approve" because it appears you accidentally selected "i disapprove" for my above post!

aquarian superkicks are also great, but in my experience, the EMAD lasts longer. not sure about how the prices compare between the two though. ive never used remo kick heads so cant comment on those.

oh crap so sorry about that

we ended up getting an aquarian superkick2 thatnks for all of the advice guys, the bass drum sounds much better than ever

Moolaka · 02-14-2012, 12:05 AM

My drummer just did the same thing to a Remo with felt & black plastic pad after a year. He plays his whole kit hard and doesn't really care about tech stuff. I have a feeling yall just really helped him out though.

oddcam · 02-15-2012, 08:20 PM

Breaking a head with Iron Cobra's... your drummer must have some beefy legs.

GSingleton · 02-16-2012, 11:59 PM

I enjoy Aquarian actually with a little muffling. They take a beating and still sound great.

CTID · 02-17-2012, 01:50 AM

I've been using Remo Powerstroke 4s for a couple years now but I've heard a few Aquarian Super Kick II's and they sound punchy as hell, so that'll be what I try next. And the Remo FALAM patches are a must, I completely agree.

iamdunker · 02-18-2012, 06:44 PM

Aquarian Super Kick II with the Aquarian double pad thingy stuck on there should last a long long time. My combo and its perfect.

Neon · 02-26-2012, 02:08 AM

i'm still enjoying my Evans EMAD Onyx with an Aquarian patch, speed cobra beaters are bassdrum head murderers :P

Max_SMW · 02-27-2012, 03:42 PM

+1 on the Emad, my drummer(s) used them for years and they kick major ass

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12-07-2011, 12:38 PM	#1
Mysticlamp Ripplesprint Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Jersy/FL Posts: 533 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Drummer broke through drum head he uses iron cobras and the head was a evans, not sure if single or double ply and one of those sticker looking things where the heads hit, it also had one of those o muffle ring things. We just really started gigging so now that it is broken would it be ok to replace it with a similar set up or is there something better we can upgrade to? Last edited by Mysticlamp; 12-08-2011 at 12:10 PM. Reason: wrong*

12-07-2011, 12:43 PM	#2
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Mysticlamp Ripplesprint Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Jersy/FL Posts: 533 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	also how do i thank and/or rep on here?

12-08-2011, 07:19 AM	#7
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,281 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HOLLLLLLLLD UP how long has he had that bass head? if its not that old of a head, tell him to ease up on the strokes, cause there's no need to assault your bass drum head that hard heads are meant to take a beating. if its just normal wear then thats quite alright from personal experience, and plenty of usage from all kinds and brands of heads: go with evans that being said, I'd get an EMAD, or even a GMAD, both allow more controll of the attack and punch with the EQ ring. now I've had their black double EQ patch, and I've used it consistently for year now, and i've had a few people tell me they hate them, but mine holds up super well, and does wonders for the sound. I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

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ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,281 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol 8-14 months ago? way to narrow it down anyways, thats good, just go with the emad, they're great heads. get a good patch for it I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

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MTech Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,594 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Most big name artists and even drum head companies will tell you that Remo sound the best..the only problem is they don't last long and that's why there's other brands like Evans and Aquarian etc... I'd highly recommend the Aquarian Super Kick II Moolaka likes this.

12-15-2011, 11:59 PM	#12
SYLrules88 I play drums! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,526 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	also when you are adding to a persons rep, make sure you select "i approve" because it appears you accidentally selected "i disapprove" for my above post! aquarian superkicks are also great, but in my experience, the EMAD lasts longer. not sure about how the prices compare between the two though. ive never used remo kick heads so cant comment on those. Agile AL-727 EB* Carvin V3 Avatar 2x12 w/ Celestion G12K-85s

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Moolaka 10,000 didgeridos! Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 251 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My drummer just did the same thing to a Remo with felt & black plastic pad after a year. He plays his whole kit hard and doesn't really care about tech stuff. I have a feeling yall just really helped him out though. My Gear

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CTID Duh-Jent Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 221 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've been using Remo Powerstroke 4s for a couple years now but I've heard a few Aquarian Super Kick II's and they sound punchy as hell, so that'll be what I try next. And the Remo FALAM patches are a must, I completely agree.

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iamdunker SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Keyrock Iowa Posts: 130 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Aquarian Super Kick II with the Aquarian double pad thingy stuck on there should last a long long time. My combo and its perfect.

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Neon ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mexico Posts: 13 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm still enjoying my Evans EMAD Onyx with an Aquarian patch, speed cobra beaters are bassdrum head murderers :P

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