Superior 2.0 as VST and software

Nostrildamus · 12-21-2010, 03:51 PM

Hey all, I have a brand new laptop with a top of the line processor and I have recently bought superior 2.0 and have been running it as a vst through both FL Studio and Adobe Audition but have been somewhat disappointed with it's performance as it tends to hog the processor and bog things down.

I've heard that Audition specifically runs things slower when it comes to midi and was unsure of how FLS stacked up in that regard. I was wondering if I would be better off simply running it through Sonar and doing all my recording there.

Opinions?

EtherealEntity · 12-21-2010, 03:59 PM

I don't know about those DAWs and what you said about Audition running MIDI slower.
All I know is, with a 'top of the line' processor you should be able to run atleast one instance of SD2.0 with no issues.
I use Sonar and could probably clone my drum template around 4 times on my i5 dualcore laptop.

Nostrildamus · 12-21-2010, 04:22 PM

Ahh. Good to know. I have an i5 so I should be rocking it no problems.

EtherealEntity · 12-21-2010, 04:33 PM

Just to note, the RAM might well be your issue. 2GB isn't much these days.
I used to use a 2GB RAM system and couldn't load the full kit at 24 bit quality. I was filling every slot on the kit though. I used to run it at 16 bit and it still took up most of my RAM.
EDIT: Though you did say it hogs the processor so I'm guessing your monitoring the performance and know what the problem is!

Nostrildamus · 12-21-2010, 11:40 PM

Woops.

This shows what a dog Audition is.

I had an i7 quadcore and 6 GB of Ram. Yeah, things run much better in Sonar.

GATA4 · 12-22-2010, 02:47 AM

Hey man, thanks for posting this. I've noticed that FL Studio tends to slow down a bit here too...I'll check out Sonar.

Mn3mic · 12-27-2010, 03:16 PM

One more thing you should check out, how big is the L2 cache on your CPU?
- Btw., running anything in Adobe 3.0 and later will tend to break down very quickly - try Nuendo or Cubase ^^

Kurkkuviipale · 12-27-2010, 06:29 PM

Just download reaper and you should be set. Adobe Audition is not any good.

drmosh · 12-28-2010, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mn3mic

One more thing you should check out, how big is the L2 cache on your CPU?

That's gonna make no difference to the stuttering he is perceiving and i highly doubt S2.0 or adobe audition are even making specific use of the L2 cache other themselves but rather letting the OS deal with it.

Mn3mic · 12-28-2010, 12:28 PM

Sure it will make a difference - more cache will make it run better cause the CPU can cache more information/files.
Of course it also depends on the driver and the soundcard too - but from my experience it's mostly due to the CPU and it's cache size.
I can run a big Cubase project with more then 50 pugins, >100 channels and 4-5 vst instruments on my PC which has a E6600 CPU and a shitty soundcard (Audigy 1) with ASIO4ALL set @ 512samples with no stutter (thats while running both SSD and AD plus 3 instances of GTR3).
A colleuge with a better overall PC and external USB soundcard but a weaker CPU (2.5GHz with 1 MB cache) - cannot run the same project even when he increases his ASIO4ALL samplerate to 2054.

But I definatelly agree, you should switch to another DAW - Adobe just insn't any good IMO.

drmosh · 12-29-2010, 10:44 AM

you do realise a cache is only few mb at best? Cache size is not going to make a difference in this case. you cannot cache entire files in the CPU cache, and as I said, none of the software he is using is programmed to directly make use of the registers in the CPU I assume

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12-21-2010, 03:51 PM	#1
Nostrildamus ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 45 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Superior 2.0 as VST and software Hey all, I have a brand new laptop with a top of the line processor and I have recently bought superior 2.0 and have been running it as a vst through both FL Studio and Adobe Audition but have been somewhat disappointed with it's performance as it tends to hog the processor and bog things down. I've heard that Audition specifically runs things slower when it comes to midi and was unsure of how FLS stacked up in that regard. I was wondering if I would be better off simply running it through Sonar and doing all my recording there. Opinions?

12-27-2010, 03:16 PM	#7
Mn3mic Fatty McButterpants Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Zagreb Posts: 247 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	One more thing you should check out, how big is the L2 cache on your CPU? - Btw., running anything in Adobe 3.0 and later will tend to break down very quickly - try Nuendo or Cubase ^^ New EP out August/September 2012. http://www.soundcloud.com/subscale "60% of the time it works all the time..."

12-27-2010, 06:29 PM	#8
Kurkkuviipale Another Sinking Shit Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,719 Thanked: 95 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just download reaper and you should be set. Adobe Audition is not any good. Oceill - Facebook Oceill - SoundCloud Joel's Soundcloud Memoirs - Facebook My views and ways for mixing, processing and programming drums! (WIP) JL Productions - Mixing and mastering services by me! Go check it out!

12-28-2010, 12:28 PM	#10
Mn3mic Fatty McButterpants Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Zagreb Posts: 247 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sure it will make a difference - more cache will make it run better cause the CPU can cache more information/files. Of course it also depends on the driver and the soundcard too - but from my experience it's mostly due to the CPU and it's cache size. I can run a big Cubase project with more then 50 pugins, >100 channels and 4-5 vst instruments on my PC which has a E6600 CPU and a shitty soundcard (Audigy 1) with ASIO4ALL set @ 512samples with no stutter (thats while running both SSD and AD plus 3 instances of GTR3). A colleuge with a better overall PC and external USB soundcard but a weaker CPU (2.5GHz with 1 MB cache) - cannot run the same project even when he increases his ASIO4ALL samplerate to 2054. But I definatelly agree, you should switch to another DAW - Adobe just insn't any good IMO. New EP out August/September 2012. http://www.soundcloud.com/subscale "60% of the time it works all the time..."

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12-21-2010, 03:59 PM	#2
EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,289 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't know about those DAWs and what you said about Audition running MIDI slower. All I know is, with a 'top of the line' processor you should be able to run atleast one instance of SD2.0 with no issues. I use Sonar and could probably clone my drum template around 4 times on my i5 dualcore laptop.

12-21-2010, 04:22 PM	#3
Nostrildamus ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 45 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ahh. Good to know. I have an i5 so I should be rocking it no problems.

12-21-2010, 04:33 PM	#4
EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,289 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just to note, the RAM might well be your issue. 2GB isn't much these days. I used to use a 2GB RAM system and couldn't load the full kit at 24 bit quality. I was filling every slot on the kit though. I used to run it at 16 bit and it still took up most of my RAM. EDIT: Though you did say it hogs the processor so I'm guessing your monitoring the performance and know what the problem is!

12-21-2010, 11:40 PM	#5
Nostrildamus ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 45 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Woops. This shows what a dog Audition is. I had an i7 quadcore and 6 GB of Ram. Yeah, things run much better in Sonar.

12-22-2010, 02:47 AM	#6
GATA4 Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,385 Thanked: 31 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey man, thanks for posting this. I've noticed that FL Studio tends to slow down a bit here too...I'll check out Sonar.

12-29-2010, 10:44 AM	#11
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