Build 3: Viewer's Choice

HaMMerHeD · 10-06-2011, 04:00 PM

Alongside my 2nd build, I'm going to start on my third build.

I have most of the wood required for either project, but only enough time for one. The other will be done, but later, probably next spring.

So if you'll humor me and vote for which you guys would like to see first, I'll get'r done.

Option 1:

Hail To The King

The Zealot King V

This is a King V shaped sub-contra bass. It has a 36" scale and 5 strings. It is designed to be tuned F#0 - B0 - E1 - A1 - D2. I've shown early versions of this design before, but it has been modified since then. It'll be a mahogany body with a 3-piece maple neck and ebony fretboard (24 frets). I'm looking at EMG 40DC pickups with passive controls, hipshot hardware, etc. Metallic black with silverleaf trim.

The Heretic Disciple

Single-cut Disciple

This is a super-tele guitar. It'll have 6 strings and a 25.5" scale. The pickup will be a Benedetto Jazz humbucker at the bridge, Graphtech Ghost saddles and an acoustiphonic pre-amp. It will be a chambered body, and there will be a soundboard transducer embedded into the chambering somewhere in the body. Controls will be master volume, piezo/magnetic blend, passive tone, and the tone knob will be a push/pull switch to enable/disable the soundboard transducer. Oil finish on the neck and body.

The body will be mahogany with a figured claro walnut top. The neck will be Madagascar rosewood with a maple fretboard (24 frets).

So, SSO, which will it be?

EtherealEntity · 10-06-2011, 04:03 PM

Both of these sound and look brilliant!! Voted for the guitar

asher · 10-06-2011, 04:05 PM

I wanted to see that bass happen before, but a lot of the ideas you're talking about with the guitar just sound too awesome.

HaMMerHeD · 10-06-2011, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asher

I wanted to see that bass happen before, but a lot of the ideas you're talking about with the guitar just sound too awesome.

Yeah, me too. The first time around, the bass' design was a bit too aggressive for my first build and would have required some techniques I was not capable of executing. I believe I am prepared for it now, having successfully built an instrument.

And the guitar would be put to good use...well, better use. It's for a good friend of mine in NYC. The bass is for me, and while I love building them and like playing them, I don't gig, I'm not even in a band, and I'm not really all that good at playing the damn thing.

BlackMastodon · 10-06-2011, 09:04 PM

I basically agree with asher, I wanted to see the bass happen but then I read the specs for the guitar, and it intrigues me.

scherzo1928 · 10-06-2011, 11:20 PM

Guitar for sure.

HaMMerHeD · 10-06-2011, 11:49 PM

Well OK then.

Thrashmanzac · 10-07-2011, 12:32 AM

you need an "other" option.
i would love to see something else in the style of the hand of doom. however of the two designs posted, the first is by far my favorite.

endo · 10-07-2011, 04:08 AM

Everyone else pretty much summed it up. I got done reading the specs for the bass, saw the picture and thought "That would be pretty cool!"

Then I read the specs for the guitar and thought "Hrmm...this one has a more obviously more in-depth description, which means you want to build the guitar more. So doo eet!

snegdk · 10-07-2011, 04:24 AM

The first design is great!

HaMMerHeD · 10-07-2011, 10:38 AM

Actually, I've spent a lot more time on the first design. The electronics package is simpler because there just isn't that much space in a V's electronics cavity. As it is, 3 knobs might be pushing it.

It may also be worth noting that the guitar's design is 36.5" long, which is about the scale length of the bass. The bass will come out about 52.5" long. So far, I haven't been able to find a non-custom case that would fit it.

ShadowFactoryX · 10-07-2011, 10:56 AM

second one for all the right reasons of seeing that thing come to life.

HaMMerHeD · 10-07-2011, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riot

That tele shape looks schmexy! Any chances we could get a vector template of just the body?

Sure. I can get it to you in AutoCAD R12/LT12 format (DXF), Stereo Lithography format (STL), or Initial Graphics Exchange Specification (IGES/IGS).

I've also been working on this alternative version, in case he decides he wants something a bit more...unusual.

I think he'll prefer the first one though. He's a pretty conservative guy.

ibanezRG1527 · 10-07-2011, 02:10 PM

wheres the smiley for cumming all over the screen?

BlackMastodon · 10-07-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibanezRG1527

wheres the smiley for cumming all over the screen?

jizzinmypants.jpg

peagull · 10-07-2011, 05:19 PM

Why is there no 'Both' option?!?

In the end I chose the V, mainly because I was watching Mastodon, and Brent Hinds with his silverburst V

SilenceIsACrime · 10-07-2011, 05:29 PM

That guitar looks way too slick - sorry bass!!

motomoto · 10-08-2011, 06:41 AM

I voted guitar because...

mahogany bass? wtf? me likes spanky bass sound

HaMMerHeD · 10-08-2011, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motomoto

I voted guitar because...

mahogany bass? wtf? me likes spanky bass sound

Eh?

If you are implying that mahogany makes a solid-body electric guitar sound "dark", I believe you are wrong. The tonewood myth is nonsense, friend.

The last bass I purchased, in fact, had a predominantly mahogany body. With stainless steel strings, it was as bright as anything. With flats or nickel strings, it was a lot more subdued. There are many factors influencing a solid-body electric guitar's (or bass guitar's) tone. Body wood is not one of them.

I kept it strung stainless, with DR Hi-Beams, actually.

motomoto · 10-08-2011, 12:13 PM

Oh well

Not everyone can have the same opinion

TimmaethBoy · 10-08-2011, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaMMerHeD

I think he'll prefer the first one though. He's a pretty conservative guy.

Shape's pretty interesting, kind of reminiscent of a violin. I think I prefer the 1st picture you had though. That should be how Tele's look

HaMMerHeD · 10-08-2011, 02:24 PM

Thanks.

I went to woodcraft today...I think I'm going to go with bloodwood on the V bass neck. Might be a bit heavy though.

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10-06-2011, 04:00 PM	#1
HaMMerHeD Bass Player in Exile Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 927 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Build 3: Viewer's Choice Alongside my 2nd build, I'm going to start on my third build. I have most of the wood required for either project, but only enough time for one. The other will be done, but later, probably next spring. So if you'll humor me and vote for which you guys would like to see first, I'll get'r done. Option 1: Hail To The King The Zealot King V This is a King V shaped sub-contra bass. It has a 36" scale and 5 strings. It is designed to be tuned F#0 - B0 - E1 - A1 - D2. I've shown early versions of this design before, but it has been modified since then. It'll be a mahogany body with a 3-piece maple neck and ebony fretboard (24 frets). I'm looking at EMG 40DC pickups with passive controls, hipshot hardware, etc. Metallic black with silverleaf trim. The Heretic Disciple Single-cut Disciple This is a super-tele guitar. It'll have 6 strings and a 25.5" scale. The pickup will be a Benedetto Jazz humbucker at the bridge, Graphtech Ghost saddles and an acoustiphonic pre-amp. It will be a chambered body, and there will be a soundboard transducer embedded into the chambering somewhere in the body. Controls will be master volume, piezo/magnetic blend, passive tone, and the tone knob will be a push/pull switch to enable/disable the soundboard transducer. Oil finish on the neck and body. The body will be mahogany with a figured claro walnut top. The neck will be Madagascar rosewood with a maple fretboard (24 frets). So, SSO, which will it be?

10-06-2011, 09:04 PM	#5
BlackMastodon \m/ (ﾟДﾟ) \m/ Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Windsor, ON Posts: 3,159 Thanked: 12 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I basically agree with asher, I wanted to see the bass happen but then I read the specs for the guitar, and it intrigues me. "Metal is for Vikings; if you're not a Viking, get off the boat." - The Beard "He doesn't even like Metallica, that's how metal he is." - My friend describing my musical tastes to her friends.

10-06-2011, 11:20 PM	#6
scherzo1928 has wood for you Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexico City Posts: 4,691 Thanked: 33 $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Guitar for sure. Is this... guitar?

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10-06-2011, 04:03 PM	#2
EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,267 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Both of these sound and look brilliant!! Voted for the guitar

10-06-2011, 04:05 PM	#3
asher n00b with an axe Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlottesville, VA/Oakland, CA Posts: 1,242 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I wanted to see that bass happen before, but a lot of the ideas you're talking about with the guitar just sound too awesome.

10-06-2011, 11:49 PM	#7
HaMMerHeD Bass Player in Exile Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 927 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well OK then.

10-07-2011, 12:32 AM	#8
Thrashmanzac plays in 69/42 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, VIC Posts: 3,770 Thanked: 53 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you need an "other" option. i would love to see something else in the style of the hand of doom. however of the two designs posted, the first is by far my favorite. ...Each guitarist has an evil fat 40 year old blueswankler trying to get out, If you give in to temptation you'll be sitting next to a fender playing john lee hooker while trying to keep your combover in place. -Desecrated being black and enjoying watermelon, i think this thread needs more watermelon. budda

10-07-2011, 04:08 AM	#9
endo SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 164 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Everyone else pretty much summed it up. I got done reading the specs for the bass, saw the picture and thought "That would be pretty cool!" Then I read the specs for the guitar and thought "Hrmm...this one has a more obviously more in-depth description, which means you want to build the guitar more. So doo eet!

10-07-2011, 04:24 AM	#10
snegdk ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 71 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The first design is great!

10-07-2011, 10:38 AM	#11
HaMMerHeD Bass Player in Exile Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 927 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually, I've spent a lot more time on the first design. The electronics package is simpler because there just isn't that much space in a V's electronics cavity. As it is, 3 knobs might be pushing it. It may also be worth noting that the guitar's design is 36.5" long, which is about the scale length of the bass. The bass will come out about 52.5" long. So far, I haven't been able to find a non-custom case that would fit it.

10-07-2011, 10:56 AM	#12
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,276 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	second one for all the right reasons of seeing that thing come to life. I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

10-07-2011, 02:10 PM	#14
ibanezRG1527 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 675 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wheres the smiley for cumming all over the screen?

10-07-2011, 05:19 PM	#16
peagull Urwało mi dupę Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Yorkshire, Uk Posts: 336 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Why is there no 'Both' option?!? In the end I chose the V, mainly because I was watching Mastodon, and Brent Hinds with his silverburst V

10-07-2011, 05:29 PM	#17
SilenceIsACrime Indeed. Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 721 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That guitar looks way too slick - sorry bass!! "Whether it's Rogaine, your 'stache or magic, this guitar needs a friggin beard now." - BangandBreach Is it a right to remain ignorant? I don't know, but I refuse to find out!

10-08-2011, 06:41 AM	#18
motomoto SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 207 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I voted guitar because... mahogany bass? wtf? me likes spanky bass sound

10-08-2011, 12:13 PM	#20
motomoto SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 207 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh well Not everyone can have the same opinion

10-08-2011, 02:24 PM	#22
HaMMerHeD Bass Player in Exile Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 927 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks. I went to woodcraft today...I think I'm going to go with bloodwood on the V bass neck. Might be a bit heavy though.

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