[Uber Mega]

Originally Posted by DelfinoPie

Yeah I keep hearing that off people who've play it...apart from one mate who is constantly blowing loads over it no matter what anyone says.

I guess thats why I was wary of paying the full price for it; same with COD4 which is still expensive for some reason

Sorry dude i don't mean to knock it when you've just bought it, i did still enjoy it, and i know a fair few people who thought it was the absolute dogs bollocks! Me and my housemate play multiplayer together a lot as well which kicks arse. In terms of single player GTA, anything will disappoint me after Vice City, i loved that game.

[DelfinoPie]

Originally Posted by Uber Mega

Sorry dude i don't mean to knock it when you've just bought it, i did still enjoy it, and i know a fair few people who thought it was the absolute dogs bollocks! Me and my housemate play multiplayer together a lot as well which kicks arse. In terms of single player GTA, anything will disappoint me after Vice City, i loved that game.

Hehe don't worry about it mate, I don't usually listen to anyone when it comes to games anyway...I aways spend my time on the GTA games doing the most ridiculous of things anyway

Did you ever play VC online on the PC, that was how I spent an entire summer...it...was...awesome

[Alpo]

I personally thought GTA IV was easily the best in the series. It was the only one I could be bothered to play through properly (not 100%, though). I don't think it is at all deserving of the almost universal praise it gets. It's worth playing for sure, but I don't understand how a game with such flaws can be considered almost perfect.

[TomAwesome]

It is pretty buggy. It's a great game, but with so many people working on it and such a big budget, you'd think they'd iron these things out. Sometimes the bugginess gets to me so much I wonder if anyone even really tested it. You can usually learn to work around things like that, but eh.

I could see it being either better or worse than SA depending on how you feel about the stuff in SA. I started GTAIV expecting a lot of that and was a little let down at first, though it really didn't take me long to get over it. Having to work out to keep yourself in shape was pretty annoying after a little while, but I liked that you were able to increase your character's stats. I also liked how you could work your weapon skill up and dual wield weapons when you reached "gangster" level with them. The pistol is usually my weapon of choice in these games, and dual wielding that stuff is great, even if not being able to fire just a single shot was annoying.

The whole "gangsta" thing doesn't particularly appeal to me, either, and it set me off from San Andreas at first, but once I actually started playing, it didn't bother me. It's the same GTA stuff, just in a different setting. I think it would get boring if all of them had the same setting. Most of the things about San Andreas that annoy people are pretty optional, though. You don't really have to work up your stats, keep in shape, or participate in turf wars (which I think was only during part of the game anyway). It's just another dimension of gameplay. I'm actually far more annoyed by my friends in GTAIV constantly calling me wanting to do stuff. Sometimes I'll play a whole session just catching up on that. Even that isn't all that horrible, though, except when people call me wanting to do stuff when I'm already on my way to pick up someone else. Hmm. I wonder if I can go out with multiple friends at once. Probably not.

[Naren]

Originally Posted by TomAwesome

The whole "gangsta" thing doesn't particularly appeal to me, either, and it set me off from San Andreas at first, but once I actually started playing, it didn't bother me. It's the same GTA stuff, just in a different setting. I think it would get boring if all of them had the same setting. Most of the things about San Andreas that annoy people are pretty optional, though. You don't really have to work up your stats, keep in shape, or participate in turf wars (which I think was only during part of the game anyway). It's just another dimension of gameplay. I'm actually far more annoyed by my friends in GTAIV constantly calling me wanting to do stuff. Sometimes I'll play a whole session just catching up on that. Even that isn't all that horrible, though, except when people call me wanting to do stuff when I'm already on my way to pick up someone else. Hmm. I wonder if I can go out with multiple friends at once. Probably not.

That was probably the number one thing that annoyed me about the game. I'm not going for 100% (because that would annoy the hell out of me finding all those pigeons and so on), but I did finish all the text message car missions yesterday and at one point, 3 people called me in a row asking me out.

It always annoyed me how their opinion of you would go down if you said "no." Dwayne's opinion of me right now is around 19% because I've never once gone anywhere with him and I've said "no" every single time, despite it having been around 65% after I saved him. And, then if you say "yes," they'll always be in a different place. The annoying thing is that they ALWAYS tell you to pick them up in an hour, even if they're on the far other side of the map, where speeding at 70 miles an hour through red lights will still take at least 1 and a half hours to get there. The most extreme is Packie. I was really really close to his house and could have gotten there in 10-20 minutes in-game time, so I said "yes." Of course, he was at the prison in far South Alderney, which was the farthest possible point he could have been and it would have taken me 2-3 hours of in-game time to get there. One time, I hijacked a helicopter and drove as fast as possible to him, jumped out of the helicopter near where he was, got a car, and he STILL bitched about me being late.

But, my friend taught me a secret. If you say "yes" every time they invite you somewhere and then "cancel plans," their opinion of you will not go down. So that's what I've been doing every time they call me. The only people you can't cancel plans with are girls you're dating. You can "dump" them, but you can't cancel plans with them. However, yesterday Kiki called me when I was stealing a car and asked me on a date, so I said "yes," couldn't cancel it, and there was no possible way I was going to get to her place on time. So her opinion went down from 100% to like 95%, then I called her, invited her out, it went back up to 100%, and then went out to the comedy club.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by noodles

Man, I hated San Andreas. I could care less about "rep" and petty gang turf wars, I hated having to eat and exercise all the time, and it was annoying always having to worry about your appearance. I felt they made things overly complicated, when all I wanted to do was steal cars and shoot people. Plus, I hate the whole premise. The gangsta lifestyle holds absolutely no appeal to me, while the Mobster motif was like stepping into Scarface or the Godfather.

I completely agreed with you there. While I enjoyed some of the features, weapons, things to do etc in SA, I absolutely HATED that gangster theme, having to do exercises and stuff too!!!

Luckily for me, I was so sick and actually created a master file for almsot all GTAs I own. And I've got almost all the side stuff done before the first real mission in SA. So missions are all I need to do whenever I go back to SA! I don't really have to worry much about most of the side crap.

But yeah, personally I love VC the best and I think I've had re-played it at least 20 times!!!

[TomAwesome]

That's a nice trick! I'll have to remember that. The most extreme one with me is Roman. He almost always calls me when I'm on the complete opposite side of the map. If you can call to cancel, you'd think you'd be able to call and say, "I'm going to be a little late BECAUSE YOU CALLED ME FROM BOHAN WHEN I'M IN SOUTH ALDERNEY." Then Jacob always calls me when I'm on my way to pick somebody else up. Brucie and the girls won't stop texting me. Carmen won't stop talking in third person. Dwayne is just whiny. Once I called him two or three times in a row to try to do something with him, and he didn't answer. Less than a minute later I got the " Dwayne" icon and a text from him bitching that I never call him.

[Azyiu]

Oh yes, and this is my question about Dwayne.

He whines about me not keeping him company and stuff, but I don't see his icon on the map nor I can call him to do stuff. What do I do? Do I just wait for his calls?

[Naren]

Originally Posted by Azyiu

Oh yes, and this is my question about Dwayne.

I don't think this is a spoiler at all, so I'm not going to use spoiler tags.

I've never called him since I've never hung out with him before, but I've had him invite me to places at least 6 times by now. He's invited me to go out drinking, to go to a strip club with him, and to go out to eat. He might have asked me for a few other places.

Once you've done all of someone's missions, their icon disappears from the map. That's why there is no Brucie icon, no Jacob icon, no Roman icon, and no Packie icon. If you DO invite or get invited, then their icon will appear somewhere on the map - generally according to the time of day. Some characters will be insanely distant places within just an hour or two.

His phone number is in your cell phone's address book and if you ignore his phone calls, you have the option to call him back, so you CAN call him.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by Naren

I don't think this is a spoiler at all, so I'm not going to use spoiler tags.

I've never called him since I've never hung out with him before, but I've had him invite me to places at least 6 times by now. He's invited me to go out drinking, to go to a strip club with him, and to go out to eat. He might have asked me for a few other places.

Once you've done all of someone's missions, their icon disappears from the map. That's why there is no Brucie icon, no Jacob icon, no Roman icon, and no Packie icon. If you DO invite or get invited, then their icon will appear somewhere on the map - generally according to the time of day. Some characters will be insanely distant places within just an hour or two.

His phone number is in your cell phone's address book and if you ignore his phone calls, you have the option to call him back, so you CAN call him.

Of course, I am aware of all the above. The problem is, I only get the machine whenever I call him up. I don't recall receiving calls from him yet, but I did received a couple of text messages from his whinning self.