[Naren]

Originally Posted by Vince

Still though, both games have free-roam, unlockable areas, etc. Mass Effect had much more dialogue and a more fleshed-out action system, but I pissed around a ton in ME and still made it through the game in about 20 hours. With GTA IV, I've been going through the game pretty non-stop, completed about 75 missions, and I'm at about 45 hours through the game and still not done yet.

There's just a shitload of stuff to do. It's crazy.

I've done 76 missions (1 more than you) and I'm at about 32 hours through the game (and still not done yet).

I did the rest of the vigilante missions yesterday. Some of the last ones in Alderney were kind of tough. Like the one where there are those two trucks with the guys with machine guns and the police come immediately when you start shooting. Their aim is really good too. The first time I did that vigilante mission, I was killed within 10-15 seconds of starting it. My health and armor went down insanely fast.

I'm gonna start doing the assassination missions today.

[7 Dying Trees]

Man, I am about 50% or so through, have jsut been playing the story stuff, but there are points where you just don't feel like going on (once you've completed all mission apart from the ones that for some reason you can't do, Haolland Nights is just eluding me at the moment for some really dumb reason)

But I am enjoying it, the driving is excellent, and even with crap handling it is fun!

[Guitarwizard]

I just completed the story missions - in both ways, by killing Dimitri, and then I did it again by killing Pegorino...
It was a lot of fun, but now I just don't feel like playing anymore...
That was diffrent in GTA:SA, it kept me playing for months...

[TomAwesome]

This game is a lot of fun! It's the most use my PS3 has gotten yet. It's easy to get sidetracked from the main story with all the little stuff. That's a lot of what makes this game: the little details and side stuff. I haven't been putting as much
time into it the last week or so, but it's still eating up a good share of my free time.

Originally Posted by Guitarwizard

I just completed the story missions - in both ways, by killing Dimitri, and then I did it again by killing Pegorino...
It was a lot of fun, but now I just don't feel like playing anymore...
That was diffrent in GTA:SA, it kept me playing for months...

*backheadslap* Spoiler tags, foo'!

[Steve]

Nothing beats cruising around Liberty City with Ace Frehley's "New York Groove" cranking on the stereo....

That is all.


Except for this:


Many years since I was here
On the street I was passin' my time away
To the left and to the right, buildings towering to the sky
And it's outta sight in the dead of night
(Ooh) Here I am and in this city
(Ooh) With a fistfull of dollars
(Ooh) And baby, you'd better believe

I'm back, back in the New York groove
I'm back, back in the New York groove
I'm back, back in the New York groove
Back in the New York groove, in the New York groove

In the back of my Cadillac
A wicked lady, sittin' by my side, sayin' "Where are we?"
Stop at Third and Forty-Three, exit to the night
It's gonna be ecstacy, this place was meant for me

(Ooh) I feel so good tonight
(Ooh) Who cares about tomorrow
(Ooh) So baby, you'd better believe

I'm back (New York groove)
Back in the New York groove (New York groove)
I'm back (New York groove)
Back in the New York groove (New York groove)
I'm back (New York groove)
Back in the New York groove (New York groove)
Back in the New York groove, in the New York groove
I'm back, back in the New York groove
I'm back, back in the New York groove

I'm back (New York groove)
Back in the New York groove (New York groove)
Repeats Out

[Naren]

I should have beat the game last night, but the game was really cheap and killed me with an invisible hand grenade before I could kill the guy at the end of the mission with perfect health and almost perfect armor. I'd been playing for about 15 minutes.

* Naren starts crying.

Stuff like that makes me just want to quit. Eh... I'll beat it tonight.

[TomAwesome]

Ahhh, yeah that random stuff is still pissing me off, too. I was playing a mission last night... Tunnel of Death or something like that... I got into position and all that good stuff, and right when the mission actually got to the main part, I pulled out the rocket launcher. Apparently, Niko doesn't understand how to fire that particular weapon AROUND the cover, so I got face-rocketted before anything even happened! Niko is not a lucky man around incendiary devices.

Oh, that whole almost-perfect-health-and-armor-through-the-whole-mission-and-then-bullshit thing happened to me tonight, too. I was doing that mission for Ray in the museum. Got through the main area, upstairs and down, just fine with my pistol, taking very little damage... Then some guy popped out of nowhere and took out my armor and most of my life with a Desert Eagle before I took him out. It took a sec to get him, because I was taking cover behind a wall, and he came out around the corner and kind of behind me. I still made it, but I hate stuff like that.

[Naren]

Originally Posted by TomAwesome

Ahhh, yeah that random stuff is still pissing me off, too. I was playing a mission last night... Tunnel of Death or something like that... I got into position and all that good stuff, and right when the mission actually got to the main part, I pulled out the rocket launcher. Apparently, Niko doesn't understand how to fire that particular weapon AROUND the cover, so I got face-rocketted before anything even happened! Niko is not a lucky man around incendiary devices.

I still sometimes use hand grenades even after swearing never to use them because Niko dropped one when I told him to throw it and killed me.

Yesterday, I accidentally killed myself with the rocket launcher because there were two cars I was supposed to destroy and I destroyed the first with the rocket launcher, the second went driving past me and I whirled around to shoot it, fired in the right direction as soon as I did, but there was a taxi right there in front of me (the entire road was empty except for this taxi that was right in front of me for some reason). I obviously was instantly killed. Instead of getting annoyed, I just burst into laughter because it was just so ridiculous. Can you imagine that happening in a movie?

[TomAwesome]

Originally Posted by Naren

I still sometimes use hand grenades even after swearing never to use them because Niko dropped one when I told him to throw it and killed me.

Yesterday, I accidentally killed myself with the rocket launcher because there were two cars I was supposed to destroy and I destroyed the first with the rocket launcher, the second went driving past me and I whirled around to shoot it, fired in the right direction as soon as I did, but there was a taxi right there in front of me (the entire road was empty except for this taxi that was right in front of me for some reason). I obviously was instantly killed. Instead of getting annoyed, I just burst into laughter because it was just so ridiculous. Can you imagine that happening in a movie?

Yeah, I remember you talking about that. I had the same trouble with grenades, so I don't use them much in combat (though a few times they've been really handy as I can bounce them off walls and get people around corners), but they're wonderful for getting rid of pursuing vehicles. I'm also carrying a remote detonated car bomb I'm waiting for a good opportunity to use. I think something similar to that taxi thing happened to me, too, except that it was some car that spawned out of nowhere and plowed me while I was chasing someone.

[Naren]

Originally Posted by TomAwesome

Yeah, I remember you talking about that. I had the same trouble with grenades, so I don't use them much in combat (though a few times they've been really handy as I can bounce them off walls and get people around corners), but they're wonderful for getting rid of pursuing vehicles. I'm also carrying a remote detonated car bomb I'm waiting for a good opportunity to use. I think something similar to that taxi thing happened to me, too, except that it was some car that spawned out of nowhere and plowed me while I was chasing someone.

I use grenades a lot now, but I'm very paranoid when I use them. Like, there was a room full of 6 guys and the first time I had went in, I had gotten killed, so I threw a grenade in and that killed 4 of them, heavily injured 1 of them, and didn't even effect the last guy.