[David]

I will definately check it out. Does maxthon block virus' like Firefox does? That's the tmain thing that I praise about it. If it has that... I'm an instant convert.

[giannifive]

Originally Posted by Chris

I DO have a problem with coding standards that aren't backwards-compatible for no other reason than "being on the cutting edge", which is the case with Mozilla.

Well now you're actually saying something! If this is the case then I agree with you.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by noodles

Currently, IE and Firefox are the only approved browsers where I work, and we do not have the ability to install software on our work machines. I'll have to see if I can get approval to try this at work, since it is the only place I can use it. I wouldn't dare to dsigrace one of my home PCs with Windows, but I am a crotchedy old UNIX elitist like that, and I wouldn't have it any other way --you should witness how Suse 10.0 runs on an AMD Athalon 64 3500+.

Probably slower than Debian.

Originally Posted by noodles

I'm tired of programming and engineering snobs telling me that I have to follow the methodology of some guy who was a professor at MIT or Berkley twenty fucking years ago.

Dude you and I are a lot alike. I don't know how big they were where you live, but out here, you'd have to add people that say "I worked at Digital (DEC) on the VAX mainframes."

Oldschool engineering talent that is still talent, but antiquated and unwilling to evolve.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by giannifive

Well now you're actually saying something! If this is the case then I agree with you.

If you wade through all of my inane babbling and ranting, I think that's the real root of my discord.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Chris

Probably slower than Debian.

Do we really to turn this into a distro debate? Let's just all be happy we're not running BSD.

Dude you and I are a lot alike. I don't know how big they were where you live, but out here, you'd have to add people that say "I worked at Digital (DEC) on the VAX mainframes."

Wow, those DEC guys are everywhere. I used to get into a daily arguement with this one dude I worked with nine years ago over OSF/1. Add the old IBM mainframe bastards with their CICS and ADA to the mix, and I get ready to kill people.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by noodles

Do we really to turn this into a distro debate? Let's just all be happy we're not running BSD.

Not at all, I just like to bust balls, and debian is fucking impossible to setup correctly so I feel a little uberdorkier having gone through the 500 unnecessary hoops it requires.

Wow, those DEC guys are everywhere. I used to get into a daily arguement with this one dude I worked with nine years ago over OSF/1. Add the old IBM mainframe bastards with their CICS and ADA to the mix, and I get ready to kill people.

I actually used to be a sysadmin for AS/400 terminals.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Chris

Not at all, I just like to bust balls, and debian is fucking impossible to setup correctly so I feel a little uberdorkier having gone through the 500 unnecessary hoops it requires.

Don't I know it! I've used about every dist out there, and settled on Suse simply because it has most of what I'm looking for right out of the box, without any huge gaping security holes that you can throw a bowling ball through (Redhat). Then again, I frist installed Linux when the process was download file, un-tar/gunzip, burn boot floppy, configure, install core, start downloading components...why am I doing this again?

I actually used to be a sysadmin for AS/400 terminals.

Man, I thought admining AIX on a RS/6000 was punishment.

[D-EJ915]

Opera owns, period.

Nothing beats its full-screen feature.

What I love is the built-in RSS/email crap and how it works bookmarks (way above and beyond the others).

Also, the Info and Links parts are sweet, it tells you all the info about a page, such as encoding and such and lists all the links on a page.

It just owns.

screenshots:
full-screen mode
Thing that comes up when you click in the address bar and I stick all my crap in there...it also shows the "links" thing

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by Chris

I DO have a problem with coding standards that aren't backwards-compatible for no other reason than "being on the cutting edge", which is the case with Mozilla.

Finally the voice of bloody reason in this browser madness!

I have had this conversation so many times with people. I have to code for all browsers and what works well in IE doesn't in FireFox (and vice versa). Goddamn Mozilla.. please add a little bit of gentle degrading in circumstances

[giannifive]

Originally Posted by noodles

Don't I know it! I've used about every dist out there, and settled on Suse simply because it has most of what I'm looking for right out of the box, without any huge gaping security holes that you can throw a bowling ball through (Redhat). Then again, I frist installed Linux when the process was download file, un-tar/gunzip, burn boot floppy, configure, install core, start downloading components...why am I doing this again?

Hey a distro flame war on a guitar forum! I'll join in!

I tried a bunch, too: Red Hat, Fedora, Mandrake, Debian. I even tried OpenBSD instead of Linux. In the end I settled on Gentoo. It's not for everyone, I admit. But I love how streamlined it is, and how it comes with a ton of packages.

I'm in charge of our group's Beowulf cluster (80 CPUs). It's currently running Fedora, but I'm going to rebuild it as an auto-assimilating (think "Borg") cluster with Gentoo.