[Naren]

Originally Posted by Korbain

Whats funny? i got a different oppinion on a game too you? I don't think i said deus ex was ground breaking (though it was in its own right, alot of people would agree with that), i said it was a FPS with a mad twist in it, and it was enjoyable for me. I could say i think its hilarious you think half life was ground breaking but deus ex wasn't, but its your oppinion, and i respect that. I came on here to post my oppinion, not be a little bitch and mock someone because they don't agree a games ground breaking while another one is, etc. Saying i haven't played half life or that i'm just a huge fanboy of deus ex was a rather childish thing to say, but its the internet, what can i expect. I have played half life, and deus ex, i'm not a fan boy, i like deus ex more. Anyways, deus ex and half life both won a shitload of achievements, so i'd like to see you go ask "anyone informed at any of the game magazines."

In the end i don't need an informed person from a game magazine to decide which game is good or not for me. I have a brain that decides for me

Which you like better is a matter of opinion. Which was more revolutionary is not. You were saying that Half Life really didn't do anything special or anything new, which is not true - and that has nothing to do with opinions. I could say that "Captain Commando was a more revolutionary game than Super Mario Brothers," but I'd be wrong.

It is your right to prefer Deus Ex to Half Life. I prefer Half Life 2 to Half Life 1 and Chris prefers Half Life 1 to Half Life 2. That's an opinionated thing. I prefer the Silent Hill series to the Resident Evil series, but if we're talking about which was/is more revolutionary and influential, the Resident Evil series would win there.

I did find it funny that you were inferring that Deus Ex was more revolutionary than Half Life simply because you like Deus Ex and don't like Half Life. That's ignoring the facts. Obviously no gaming magazines are going to argue about whether Korbain prefers Half Life or Deus Ex or which he SHOULD prefer. In fact, they're not going to argue about anything because there's no question about which game was revolutionary. As for fun and enjoyment, I like both Half Life 1 and Deus Ex, and they both won quite a few awards.

[Chris]

HL2 would have been better than HL1 if not for obnoxiously long load times and WAY too many levels with the buggy/airboat that just seemed to go on forever. I'm never one to use godmode cheats in a game until I've beaten it, and I ended up doing just that for HL2 every time the buggy/boat came up. 2 hours of airboating through the same aqueduct shooting the same guys is not fun.

[Stitch]

Going back three steps, what the hell happened to System Shock 2? It was an absolutely great game, but just seemed to get totally lost under everything else at the time...but looking back I can't remember any of those games that came out at that time apart from MechWarrior 3 that was worth mentioning.

[Korbain]

Originally Posted by Stitch

Going back three steps, what the hell happened to System Shock 2? It was an absolutely great game, but just seemed to get totally lost under everything else at the time...

I really enjoyed system shock 2, it was pretty freaky, what i loved and hated, was the whole ration ammo shit lol. But thats what added too its intensity, so word! I sorta found Deus Ex a tiny bit similar too System shock 2, in its own way.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Stitch

Going back three steps, what the hell happened to System Shock 2? It was an absolutely great game, but just seemed to get totally lost under everything else at the time...but looking back I can't remember any of those games that came out at that time apart from MechWarrior 3 that was worth mentioning.

iirc from back in the day, SS2 ran really, really badly on all but the highest end gaming rigs, so a lot of the people that purchased it were pissed off. Great game though.

Looking Glass folding was like, the shittiest VG moment ever.

[Korbain]

Originally Posted by Chris

HL2 would have been better than HL1 if not for obnoxiously long load times and WAY too many levels with the buggy/airboat that just seemed to go on forever. I'm never one to use godmode cheats in a game until I've beaten it, and I ended up doing just that for HL2 every time the buggy/boat came up. 2 hours of airboating through the same aqueduct shooting the same guys is not fun.

LOl that killed it for me too, it was cool cruising around at first, fucking shit up and admiring the cool level design, but, god they bled it out hard. The buggy bit, wasn't toooooo bad, but still bled out. The boat, jesus, i almost thought i'd be driving the boat to the end of the game lol. It was cool how it built up and you got the machine gun to take down the helicopter (because you were like "ohhh i'm gonna fuck you up helicopter"), but it just took fucking long, if they cut the boat bit in half, it would be a great little vehicle action sequence. I just found hl2 got repetitive, like each bit went a fraction too long, it was still fun though. Though i can only shoot so much "carbine" or whatever they're called before i start getting sick of it lol.
I liked the starship trooper looking alien things you get and you throw the scent grenades on the bad guys lol.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Korbain

out. The boat, jesus, i almost thought i'd be driving the boat to the end of the game lol.

So friggin' true.

[Naren]

Originally Posted by Chris

HL2 would have been better than HL1 if not for obnoxiously long load times and WAY too many levels with the buggy/airboat that just seemed to go on forever. I'm never one to use godmode cheats in a game until I've beaten it, and I ended up doing just that for HL2 every time the buggy/boat came up. 2 hours of airboating through the same aqueduct shooting the same guys is not fun.

Yeah, the airboat is the only part of Half Life 2 I didn't like. I didn't think it was hard. I beat it easily enough. I just... didn't like it. The buggy, however, I thought was really really cool. I kinda wish the buggy part of the game had been longer. The airboat part I wish had been shorter.

[Korbain]

Originally Posted by Naren

Yeah, the airboat is the only part of Half Life 2 I didn't like. I didn't think it was hard.

It was the challenging part in the game, keeping focused and interested lol. I really liked how it was cool to cruise around and just look at how kick ass the scenery and shit was on the boat, i loved the water effects. I liked how the little buggy bit sorted, had bits where you got out and shot people and shit. Then kept going.

They're apparently making half life 3 now? I read a few things, you know how valve are, they like, say it, without really saying it lol. They just hint at shit and fuck with peoples heads. I thought the episode stuff was a bit silly, they were just missions packs. I wish they did like, an opposing force sorta thing for hl2, if it were possible...

[Naren]

Originally Posted by Korbain

They're apparently making half life 3 now? I read a few things, you know how valve are, they like, say it, without really saying it lol. They just hint at shit and fuck with peoples heads. I thought the episode stuff was a bit silly, they were just missions packs. I wish they did like, an opposing force sorta thing for hl2, if it were possible...

They said that the reason for the episodes is that fans were getting too anxious waiting for the next game which takes a long long time to make, but they could make episodes a lot faster because they're only about 1/3rd the size of a normal game.

They are making Half Life 2: Episode Three right now. I've never heard anything about a Half Life 3. My friend told me that Half Life 2: Episodes 1, 2, and 3 would pretty much BE "Half Life 3." I doubt they've started work on a Half Life 3 yet, but if you have any sources for this information, post the links. I'd be interested in it.