Oh my dear...xbox 720?!?!

[Xaios]

Originally Posted by groph

Don't consoles have FPS caps and no anti-aliasing? I know most PC games that are available on platforms always look much better on the PC, GTA4 sure does.

I just don't want to see the PC gaming market go completely under, the mouse+keyboard just make more sense to me than a couple of thumbsticks, especially in shooter games.

And are they REALLY calling it the Xbox 720?

This is a really ADD post.

It's not entirely true that consoles don't have AA. On newer games they sometimes have to sacrifice the ability to run it so that they can maintain a high frame rate. I also don't know if consoles cap on FPS, but they likely run Vertical Sync, which will lock the FPS to be either a factor or a multiplier of the television's refresh rate. This eliminates tearing when there's a lot of movement on the screen.

Game developers have been sounding the death bell for PC as a gaming platform ever since it became such. It hasn't happened yet, and it likely never will.

They're probably simply refering to it as the Xbox 720 simply to follow the precedence of the Xbox 360. Before they revealed the name of the Xbox 360, they didn't really know what to call it because the series only had one model in it until then. They called it the Xbox 2, Xbox Next, Nextbox, etcetera. The name "Xbox 360" blindsided pretty much everyone.

[Joose]

Man I cannot wait for the new Xbox and the next Forza!

[TomAwesome]

Originally Posted by Xaios

Seems to me that the PS2 conroller is just an SNES controller with analog sticks, 2 extra side buttons and handles.

Well, Sony's controllers still pretty much look like the original PSX controllers, and when you take into consideration that the PlayStation was originally designed to be a SNES peripheral, it makes sense that the controller layout came out bearing a striking resemblance to the SNES controller.

[Captain Shoggoth]

This makes me a bit sad, because whilst there are some games that are always fun to play, and I'm trawling the shit out of Skyrim at the moment, I think I've reached the point where I've bought my last console. I'm not even at the age of consent yet

[Spinedriver]

I usually catch on near the end of the cycle.

I got a PS1 just a few years before the PS2 showed up. Snagged a PS2 in 2003, 2-3 years before the PS3. Now, I bought a PS3 just last year and a new one should be popping up in a year or 2. Looks like I have plenty of time to save up.

[Bekanor]

I personally loved the giant original xbox controller.


I had 2 of them and I used them exclusively until they both eventually broke, rather I eventually broke both of them, rather some very cheap gaming moments broke both of them.

One took too many hurls. The second one I twisted after a really cheap Ninja Gaiden death and snapped the PCB and some of the chassis. I've had to find other ways to express game rage, wireless controllers are too expensive and there's no way they could take 1/3rd the amount of abuse those giant xbox controllers did.

[Holy Katana]

Originally Posted by Zonk Knuckle

When this is released, if companies continue to release games without anti-aliasing, I will be quite annoyed.

This. I actually prefer PC gaming, if only for the lack of jaggies. My new laptop is oddly rather good for games (obviously not the newest ones, but still). And I got it for practically nothing (it was already fairly cheap by laptop standards, but it was also a display model, on sale, and I had a gift card as well). The AMD Fusion series is really quite a good architecture for budget laptops.

I'm planning on building a gaming PC later this year, though, because SKYRIM.

[Konfyouzd]

Originally Posted by TomAwesome

Well, Sony's controllers still pretty much look like the original PSX controllers, and when you take into consideration that the PlayStation was originally designed to be a SNES peripheral, it makes sense that the controller layout came out bearing a striking resemblance to the SNES controller.

SNES controller ftw

[beneharris]

Originally Posted by Spinedriver

I usually catch on near the end of the cycle.

I got a PS1 just a few years before the PS2 showed up. Snagged a PS2 in 2003, 2-3 years before the PS3. Now, I bought a PS3 just last year and a new one should be popping up in a year or 2. Looks like I have plenty of time to save up.

that isn't such a bad way to do it. you really picked it up during its heyday. if you grab it at the beginning you have to slog through all the crap that comes out upon launch, to find the 1 or 2 games that are good for the first month or so.

pick it up after the developers have had time to learn how to program things, and you get games like dark souls, or riddick (although that was originally xbox and pc, but you get my point).

[GazPots]

^^^

Not to mention you get later hardware revisions which solve some problems that arrise in the launch models lifetime.

[Black_Sheep]

Microsoft fails yet again im afraid.

I'll go with playstation. Like i always have. One of the biggest reasons is the controller, the PS one is way better imo.

[Mwoit]

Originally Posted by Bobo

Video car question from a nub. I saw a vid that I think was implying that this 720 graphics card could possibly perform better on the Xbox than on a PC. I may have totally understood it wrong, but figured I'd ask this random question.

I guess a lot of it depends on the programmer and their software (again, simple nub understanding) seeing as how Gears of War 3 looks way better than Modern Warfare 3 on the 360.

Gears of War 3 is built specifically for the Xbox 360 as opposed to Modern Warfare 3 which is multi platform. So I guess they can use 360 hardware specifc tricks and compilers to really squeeze the most out of it and not worry how to reproduce the same graphics in a PS3 or PC setting.

As with most new technology, I'll wait for the first wave of Xbox 720's (or whatever) to come out to watch the usual tech fails (bugs, hardware failures, shitty launch titles) before snagging one for cheap. I like to think the Xbox will be the popular console on the Western market meaning that I could probably snag one for cheap.

[McKay]

What are people talking '1080p' for with PC's? Don't you mean resolution?

Console games look 'great' because they're rendered at shit resolutions and stretched to fit TV screens.

[McKay]

Originally Posted by Xaios

Oh yes, on a spec sheet a computer will almost always look better. However, because console hardware is homogenous, software can be made to run extremely lean and take full advantage of the hardware, unlike PC software which must account for many variables that simply don't exist on consoles. When the Xbox 360 came out, my computer was quite superior on paper, but the Xbox 360 schooled it in the real world.

BF3 is completely neutered for consoles, the homogenised hardware doesn't make up as much difference as people would like to believe.

[Xaios]

Originally Posted by McKay

BF3 is completely neutered for consoles, the homogenised hardware doesn't make up as much difference as people would like to believe.

It's true that it doesn't make such a difference now, after PCs have had another 5 years to develop over consoles, but when they first came out, they had a huge advantage running the same software, considering the difference in price between them.

Let me put it this way. If, in November 2005, I went out and spent $650 (the approximate cost of an Xbox 360 when it was first released) on a PC, it's highly unlikely that this PC would be able to run Battlefield 3 *at all* at this point in time, even on the lowest possible settings.

Also, 1080P has become a fairly ubiquitous term even among PC gamers since most monitors sold these days (at least to the gaming community) do in fact have 1080P resolution.