Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 coming November 2011

[MFB]

Do want Spec OPs mode It's like zombies but better!

[ittoa666]

Originally Posted by Taylor

That mode will be the reason I buy the game (If I decide to).

Also, it took them that long to put in a juggernaut killstreak?

[GazPots]

Whats the deal with the guy blowing up bouncing betty style, yet the kill icon is an AC130 symbol?


WTF?

[That_One_Person]

Originally Posted by GazPots

Whats the deal with the guy blowing up bouncing betty style, yet the kill icon is an AC130 symbol?


WTF?

Probably a placeholder for something they don't want to be known quite yet.

[CrushingAnvil]

.... YES.

[GazPots]

Originally Posted by That_One_Person

Probably a placeholder for something they don't want to be known quite yet.

Unless the AC130 blew him up at the same time the mine went off?


Either way, looks fun.

[vampiregenocide]

I believe it's a booby-trapped care package. It's good to see you now have poinstreaks instead of killstreaks, so you get rewarded for objective gameplay.

[Taylor]

A little multiplayer teaser.


Looks to me like an updated MW2, which is exactly what they should have done. Redo all the weapons and maps and killstreaks, but leave the gameplay the same.
Pretty stoked!

Not entirely thrilled to see grenade launchers back, but they could be really limited and throttled back.
Hopefully anyways.

[Black_Sheep]

Looks great. Cool music as well ..But it didn't show much of the actual gameplay. And it also made me wonder if they have anything else but city maps?

I still have high expectations. But if they're trying to top Black Ops in every level (which is what they've said they'd do) it's gonna be reeeaaally hard. Of course i hope they succeed in it.

Less than 2 months now...

[Taylor]

Originally Posted by Black_Sheep

Looks great. Cool music as well ..But it didn't show much of the actual gameplay. And it also made me wonder if they have anything else but city maps?

I still have high expectations. But if they're trying to top Black Ops in every level (which is what they've said they'd do) it's gonna be reeeaaally hard. Of course i hope they succeed in it.

Less than 2 months now...

Keep in mind that it's just a premier, not actual multiplayer gameplay.

Just showing some of the textures and ideas.


I'm super impressed with the animations of the players. Looks to me like it's far more realistic movement-wise. Granted this isn't actual gameplay, it still looks nice.

I far prefer Modern Warfare's engine to that of Black Ops, and just about everything else for that matter. So, for me, I think it will top Black Ops.

[The Reverend]

I think they need to drop the pretext and just make COD an MMO. No story, no nothing, just focus purely on the multiplayer. There's no point wasting money and talent on an ~8 hour story that the vast majority of consumers don't even play completely through.

I think it would work better in the business sense, too. Make it a subscription (like $10 a month) and incorporate elements of F2P shit, like weapons upgrades you can only buy or some such thing. They'd net an even larger profit, with only a very small loss of the consumer base, provided things like ample positive media coverage were provided.

[vampiregenocide]

Really wish they'd use an updated engine. The game looks almost the same as it did at the beginning.

The COD campaigns are and always have been amazing. I think maybe in the future a PC only COD game would be a good move. Console users are moving on from COD, but those games tend to have a longer lifespan on PCs compared to console. With proper mod support and whatnot they could really create a loyal fanbase that could stand the test of time.

[Stealth7]

@ 3:14 It looks like they have brought back the heartbeat monitor... LAME!

[Thrashmanzac]

any one notice that guy picking up the dog tags of the player he just killed?
could this be some sort of rewards system where you unlock content by collecting dog tags?
2:27 looks alot like a map from modern warfare... cant remember what its called though

[Stealth7]

Originally Posted by Thrashmanzac

any one notice that guy picking up the dog tags of the player he just killed?
could this be some sort of rewards system where you unlock content by collecting dog tags?

I noticed that as well, I wonder if they got the idea from Battlefield... :P

[Taylor]

Originally Posted by vampiregenocide

Really wish they'd use an updated engine. The game looks almost the same as it did at the beginning.

The COD campaigns are and always have been amazing. I think maybe in the future a PC only COD game would be a good move. Console users are moving on from COD, but those games tend to have a longer lifespan on PCs compared to console. With proper mod support and whatnot they could really create a loyal fanbase that could stand the test of time.

Why an updated engine?

That's the best part of the MW series.

[Prydogga]

I believe it's more like the system used in Crysis 2, the dog tags are a 'confirmed kill'





Edit: The stills for these videos have the most flattering faces.

Edit2: All 3 videos have actual gameplay.

[Taylor]

Originally Posted by Prydogga

I believe it's more like the system used in Crysis 2, the dog tags are a 'confirmed kill'

Edit: The stills for these videos have the most flattering faces.

Edit2: All 3 videos have actual gameplay.

Haters can hate, but that looks awesome to me.

[Taylor]

45 minute video of gameplay, weaponry, perks and other new features.



It seems to me that they only carried over a few things and did what everyone really wanted : more guns, new perks, new killstreaks, but the same gameplay.

[Uncreative123]

Originally Posted by The Reverend

I think they need to drop the pretext and just make COD an MMO. No story, no nothing, just focus purely on the multiplayer. There's no point wasting money and talent on an ~8 hour story that the vast majority of consumers don't even play completely through.

I think it would work better in the business sense, too. Make it a subscription (like $10 a month) and incorporate elements of F2P shit, like weapons upgrades you can only buy or some such thing. They'd net an even larger profit, with only a very small loss of the consumer base, provided things like ample positive media coverage were provided.

I was with you up til that second part. You really think the $60 x 10 million or so people that are gonna buy the game ($600 million/ .6 BILLION) isn't enough? Plus when they inevitably release two more expansion map pack sets at another $15 a crack, figure at least half the people who have the game are going to buy those- you're talking a huge amount of money. I'm pretty sure they've already said they're never going to charge a subscription fee- mostly because they realize from a business perspective that that would be a very bad idea. You don't mess with a proven formula.
You didn't really lay out a reason for why they would charge a monthly fee anyway- what more would you get in that, that you aren't getting already? Essentially, that's what the newer map packs are anyway- just a 6-month upgrade fee.

New footage looks awesome. Way stoked.

[The Reverend]

Originally Posted by Uncreative123

I was with you up til that second part. You really think the $60 x 10 million or so people that are gonna buy the game ($600 million/ .6 BILLION) isn't enough? Plus when they inevitably release two more expansion map pack sets at another $15 a crack, figure at least half the people who have the game are going to buy those- you're talking a huge amount of money. I'm pretty sure they've already said they're never going to charge a subscription fee- mostly because they realize from a business perspective that that would be a very bad idea. You don't mess with a proven formula.
You didn't really lay out a reason for why they would charge a monthly fee anyway- what more would you get in that, that you aren't getting already? Essentially, that's what the newer map packs are anyway- just a 6-month upgrade fee.

New footage looks awesome. Way stoked.

Aha! This is where my carefully planned out price point of $10 comes in! ten bucks a month comes out to a $120 a year, so if you made the DLC free, took the people working campaign and put them on adding to the multiplayer, you'd both make a better game AND double your profits, assuming nobody flipped shit about this. This is also assuming that the world of economics operates on a 10-year old's logic.

If COD was subscription-based, it would simply destroy every other game in the history of games in terms of profit. It'd probably make what the industry as a whole made in like 1992 or something . They could do something along the lines of WoW, but with more updates and map packs, all that jazz people love the series for now, and I really think people would buy into it.

[Black_Sheep]

Originally Posted by Prydogga

I believe it's more like the system used in Crysis 2, the dog tags are a 'confirmed kill'

I really hope you don't have to run all the way to the corpse and collect them. That would suck ass, big time.

[vampiregenocide]

Originally Posted by Taylor

Why an updated engine?

That's the best part of the MW series.

It's boring looking, they really should have tried something new because this looks just like a Modern Warefare 2 expansion pack.

Originally Posted by Black_Sheep

I really hope you don't have to run all the way to the corpse and collect them. That would suck ass, big time.

That would pretty much kill sniping. It was one thing I hated about Crysis 2.

[Taylor]

Originally Posted by vampiregenocide

It's boring looking, they really should have tried something new because this looks just like a Modern Warefare 2 expansion pack.

Fair enough, but would you really sacrifice gameplay quality such as movement and basic things such as bullets flying where you want them to?
Just so that it's a bit prettier?
Obviously they should make both work, but as we know with Black Ops, that didn't work so well. Maybe now it's okay....nearly one year after they released it.


But think about it, a sequel by definition is a continuation. MW2 is like MW1 with some updates, and thus the same with MW3.


Just like Forza 3 is like Forza 2 with some updates.
And GT5 is like GT4 with updates.
And Crysis 2 is like Crysis 1 with some updates.
I could go on and on.

Wouldn't be a sequel if it wasn't similar in some ways right?

And there really isn't that much mirroring MW2 in MW3.
The engine, sure, it works very well and it looks good enough for me.
Brought back some weaponry from MW2, did the same with MW1. But gave them all new sounds.
Brought back some perks, but they did the same with MW1.
Attachments never change so.....


That's all I can really think of.


I think people were expecting something revolutionary from a company that doesn't do revolutionary. Especially since it's a sequel.



Either way, I hope this doesn't come off as attacking you, I hope we're on a level above that with each other.

[That_One_Person]

Originally Posted by Black_Sheep

I really hope you don't have to run all the way to the corpse and collect them. That would suck ass, big time.

It looks like an entirely seperate game mode that you have to do that in. I think I saw on the screen that it said "PMC" as the game type.