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Unread 12-20-2011, 05:09 PM   #1376
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Unread 12-20-2011, 05:32 PM   #1377
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It's actually kindof starting to bum me out how short so many of the storylines and quests are. They're still generally pretty interesting and/or entertaining, but they aren't interesting for long enough to really draw me in to the stories. I didn't even have time enough to feel like I was a true member of the thieves guild before they were hoisting the leadership mantle on me. The same was essentially true of the Dark Brotherhood. I even did ALL of the available side missions assassinations in the DB before advancing the story, and I still didn't really feel like anything more than just some outsider who likes killing people.

I suppose doing a shit ton of side missions in the thieves guild before doing stoy missions might have made more of a connection, but there was little to no reason to do them, as opposed to in Oblivion, where you had to go be a thief and do some thievin' before they'd even tell you about a new mission.

I'm slowly becoming aware that I don't feel as immersed in Skyrim as I did in Oblivion, but I'm not sure how much of that is nostalgia for the game I played first, and how much is due to some "fault" with Skyrim.

Oh well. It's still my GOTY, surprise surprise.
By developing the world to a much higher level than oblivion, it seems like this fell out of the bag when they shook it all up, you know? Morrowind to Oblivion, we had the same lengthy guild storylines and better graphics, piss poor dungeons, etc. This one they got the dungeons back up to snuff, and the main story was arguably better, but everything could be accomplished too quickly.

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Unread 12-20-2011, 09:41 PM   #1378
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to me Skyrim is still in the BETA stage and shouldnt have been released yet...
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Unread 12-21-2011, 02:10 AM   #1379
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I just went on a random killing spree in Markarth just for shits and giggles (I saved beforehand, of course) and got my bounty in The Reach up to 23,000 in about five minutes using nothing but Storm Call and Fire Storm. It was hilarious.

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Killing sprees are always fun when you're bored of doing quests and just want to blow off some steam. In the game, of course.


I went back to Windhelm and got myself arrested to get rid of the massive bounty I had. But, it was weird, because not long after that I was arrested again for doing absolutely nothing.

Also, I kind of regret my killing spree in Windhelm and not knowing about the serial killer quest when I first went there.

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Did you finish it? Cause i couldn't, there was some bug that ....ed up the entire quest. Don't know if it's fixed by now...
Dude, I didn't even start it. I had no idea about it until after my spree.

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Dude, I didn't even start it. I had no idea about it until after my spree.
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Unread 12-21-2011, 02:33 PM   #1385
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Did you finish it? Cause i couldn't, there was some bug that ....ed up the entire quest. Don't know if it's fixed by now...
I thought it was bugged too, but it's actually just really particular about certain steps.
Assuming you have already investigated the house the killer was in, you've seen the ZOMG A BUTCHER!!!1! pamphlets on the shelf in the corner. First, make sure you also get the strange amulet under the pamphlets, as that'll unlock a conversation option. Second, make sure you take one of the pamphlets and keep it. Third, be sure to check the wardrobe near that shelf, if you haven't. It conceals a gruesome surprise that you'll need. Then, go talk to Viola Giordano, and make sure that pamphlet is in your inventory, because if it isn't, you won't get the quest-related conversation option. That's what had me stuck on the quest for-freaking-ever: not having the stupid pamphlet with me.


Hope that helped a bit. I was pissed about that quest for a long time too, until I did some e-digging and found that out.

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Unread 12-21-2011, 03:12 PM   #1386
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I just went on a random killing spree in Markarth just for shits and giggles (I saved beforehand, of course) and got my bounty in The Reach up to 23,000 in about five minutes using nothing but Storm Call and Fire Storm. It was hilarious.

What really ticked me off is in Markarth for the forsworn conspiracy quest line
you cannot get in the jail without being arrested. I stole the key from the guards, murderred the 4 guards who killed Elyas and fully expected this time to sneak in, murder Macanath, and sneak out. Last time the guards breathing down me made me surrender (or be killed) outside, and I had assumed this would be an option.
I feel they really dropped the ball there, it should have been doable.

That whole having a pamphlet in your inventory was a PITA step that I didn't figure out either, until I read it somewhere. I even have the journal one, from the man himself, and couldn't solve it. Bethesda needed to have that particular journal fast forward the quest. Radiant responsive system my ass

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Unread 12-21-2011, 06:59 PM   #1389
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Using God Mode goes a ways towards making spellcasting more enjoyable, because you can use the really high level stuff without worrying about magicka cost or recharging, so you can just use a wide variety of uber-spells to .... shit up everywhere you go, and finally feel like the supremely powerful mage that the vanilla game never quite achieves. It also eliminates the need for shout recharging, which makes using whirlwhind sprint to zoom around everywhere feasible and fun. Incidentally, no matter how many times the guards ask you to stop shouting in town, they never actually do anything about it. I sprint everywhere now, so I get warned at least three times per visit .

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About 130 hours in, across like 7 characters... Haven't even gotten one to level 50

I decided yesterday to start a character to get to the level cap with. It's caused me to have a really weird playing style because i use stealth with bows/dual wielding melee/destruction magic all at once. I'm kind of concerned spreading xp out like this will cause this guy to be really underpowered for his level, so i'm trying to keep non combat skills from leveling much.
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Only things left for me to level up are resto/conjur/pickpocket/1 hand/alchemy and they are all in the 60-90's. I'm at level 75. Woot.
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What really ticked me off is in Markarth for the forsworn conspiracy quest line
you cannot get in the jail without being arrested. I stole the key from the guards, murderred the 4 guards who killed Elyas and fully expected this time to sneak in, murder Macanath, and sneak out. Last time the guards breathing down me made me surrender (or be killed) outside, and I had assumed this would be an option.
I feel they really dropped the ball there, it should have been doable.
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on Madanach by bludgeoning his head in with a pickaxe then looting his key. I liked Eltrys as well, who'll raise his son now?


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I have finished Companion, Thief, Mages, Dark Bros questlines I find the rewards a bit disappointing.

Btw, for you mage-players, how much Magicka do you have? I currently have about 400 including all buffs. I read it somewhere that 300 magicka excluding buff is sufficient because later you'll enchant clothes with 75% spell cost reduction?

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Found what seems to be a bit of an exploit in terms of enabling you to level up pickpocketing quickly.


You need to have done the thieves guild. Just pick pocket guards and if you're caught, pay them off and say you're from the guild. Then as they walk away, pick pocket all the money you gave them back plus whatever they had. You'll be pick pocketing around 500 so you get a lot more experience than if you just stole a couple of septims. You can only do this to an individual guard once, as the second time the option to bribe them off as a member of the guild is not given (This probably comes back in time). Just do it to each of the guards in a city then move to another. Easy.
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Btw, for you mage-players, how much Magicka do you have? I currently have about 400 including all buffs. I read it somewhere that 300 magicka excluding buff is sufficient because later you'll enchant clothes with 75% spell cost reduction?
I have around 400 base. I also have the ring of resurgence that I bought off of a shop. 80% magicka regeneration? Yes please!

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I have finished Companion, Thief, Mages, Dark Bros questlines I find the rewards a bit disappointing.

Btw, for you mage-players, how much Magicka do you have? I currently have about 400 including all buffs. I read it somewhere that 300 magicka excluding buff is sufficient because later you'll enchant clothes with 75% spell cost reduction?
My mage only has 200 something base, but with all effects has 320 magicka, 15% spell reduction, and a rather rediculous 350% magicka regen rate, which feels almost like cheating
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