The "VS" Thread (Having trouble choosing between two or three guitars? Post here!)

[edlamb0306]

Hi all! First post here.

I'm struggling to decide between having an Agile (Std 727 with passives) shipped to me here in the UK, which would be around $700 or saving up a bit more and buying a Schecter Hellraiser C-7 which I can get for about £500 (about $800). What does everyone think? Is the Agile worth the hefty shipping + tax compared to the Schecter?

[the britt shredder]

The only advice i can offer is to go with the guitar you like and know how it plays and all. it doesn't matter if its cheaper if you think it plays awful in the end

[Shredguitar666]

...continuation of my hunt for the next guitar.


Links to the two guitars mentioned in the subject:

IBANEZ RGD2127Z-ISH - Thomann danske Cyberstore

IBANEZ RGD7320Z-BKF - Thomann danske Cyberstore

They seem pretty alike to me, although there are some obvious differences:

1) The pickups

2) The neck (On the expensive model there is a prestige neck)

I am going to replace the pickups of whichever guitar I buy to: LiquiFire + Crunchlab or D-Activator, so really the only extra I get from buying the expensive guitar is a prestige neck. Is it really worth the extra bucks??

[Mordacain]

Originally Posted by Shredguitar666

...continuation of my hunt for the next guitar.


Links to the two guitars mentioned in the subject:

IBANEZ RGD2127Z-ISH - Thomann danske Cyberstore

IBANEZ RGD7320Z-BKF - Thomann danske Cyberstore

They seem pretty alike to me, although there are some obvious differences:

1) The pickups

2) The neck (On the expensive model there is a prestige neck)

I am going to replace the pickups of whichever guitar I buy to: LiquiFire + Crunchlab or D-Activator, so really the only extra I get from buying the expensive guitar is a prestige neck. Is it really worth the extra bucks??

Its definitely worth the extra money if you can afford it. It has of course the Prestige neck and all the awesomeness that accompanies that (fret dressing, construction, comfort, durability) but also higher grade hardware all-around and far more likely to have higher quality wood. Constructions, fit & finish and overall QC is much higher.

If you can afford it, always go with the prestige.

[Manticore]

Always buy the Japanese model when ever possible

[Shredguitar666]

How can I ensure that I get a japanese model? What other models are available? Sorry for sounding like a complete idiot...

[ibanezRG1527]

all prestiges are japanese

[ibanezRG1527]

trust us. rgd7320 is ok at best. the 2127z is amazing at worst. near perfect at best. the only thing on those guitars thats the same is the body shape.

rgd7320z: neck kinda sucks (just my opinion), cheaper woods, low quality control, cheap pickups, cheap bridge (which is ok, just not great), not-so-good frets and wont last as long

rgd2127z: AMAZING neck, high quality woods, top of the line quality control, good pickups (though you want CL/LF anyway so doesnt matter), AMAZING bridge, great fret treatment and will last 50 years if you want

which is the better option? i think that the price that ibanez is giving for the rgd2127z is a steal for how good of a guitar it really is

[klinic]

I have been trying to get a Seven String built for me for ages... But I eventually gave up on getting what I wanted in Australia and started looking for Ibanez Universes. Also turned out to be a disaster.

Anyway, I've been getting into some Animals as Leaders, as well as some Jazz lately. And I really love Tosin Abasis clean playing with the 8 string. Some awesome chord voicing and phrasing ideas.

And, well, now I'm wondering if 7 will be enough. -.-; I mean, ideally, I plan to play with a bass player and there doesn't seem to be anything of the Universe's calibre in an 8 string. Anywhere. :/ Will it be enough?

[ibanezRG1527]

get the 8. it has both a 6 and a 7 string built in. its enough and more

[wick001]

ESP H-1007 vs. Schecter C7 Custom. Both look great. The main difference is the 26.5 scale on the Schecter vs. 25.5 on esp & active on esp vs passive on schecter.

What would you choose? Why?

http://www.schecterguitars.com/Prod...C-7-Custom.aspx
Schecter C-7 Custom | Sweetwater.com



http://www.espguitars.com/guitars/l...uxe/h-1007.html


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[Kabstract]

I like passives more, more variety if you want to change. EMG 7's use bass sizing, so if you don't like them later on, it'll be odd to work with.

The guitars are gonna be super similar overall though, so decide if you want EMGs for sure, or a range of passives.

[OrsusMetal]

I like the ltd better. Better upper fret access and I have always liked ltds necks better than Schecters. They don't feel as thick. The passives in the Schecter are a plus, but I can get over the fact that the ltd has actives. Ltds have ALWAYS played and sounded better to me than Schecters. Just me though.

[kris_jammage]

Id have the LTd over the Schecter any day. Cant give any exact reasons, just thats what id pick! Haha!

[poopyalligator]

I like the look of the LTD better, and qualitywise they are probably the same. I would put blackouts in the LTD if i got it, and I would put some dimarzios in the schecter if i got it. Go for the LTD.

[Rotatous]

I think the LTD looks a bit better, but spec-wise I'd rather have the Schecter. I'd much prefer the passive pickups and extended scale length.

[kmanick]

I played the floyded version of the LTD a while back aand was very tempted to take it home with me.
super comfy neck , adn very good looking quality.

[TGI11]

So, I'm planning to buy a new 7-string...


The problem is that I'm having a difficult time choosing between Ibanez and Agile.

The guitars I'm interested are

Agile Interceptor pro 727


and

Ibanez RG1527-m


I've heard great things about both guitars...


Which one would you recommend for me?

I enjoy playing djenty stuff in pretty low tunings... would the 25'5 inch scale neck on the Ibanez work for that? I'm also not the biggest guy, so would the 27 inch baritone neck on the agile suit me well? I'm also interested that if I would by either guitar, is it necessary to change the pickups to EMG 707's etc.? And finally, is the Floyd rose bridge on the Agile any good? I've heard a lot of mixed feelings about it...


Thanks for the help...
-Alex

[soliloquy]

i dont have the agile 7 stringer any more, but i still have 2 other agiles (al 3000 and al3100). if you're in or around mississauga, you can try em out to see the quality of agiles.

[deathscar]

Schecter for scale length, passives and ebony board.

[Gamma362]

I prefer ESP as company so I would go with the ESP. I don't mind actives and I prefer the necks on LTDs versus Schecters.

[ExhumedShadow]

Not a single doubt on my mind, H-1007!
I've owned a c-7 and like is well known around it's a baseball bat of a neck.
Actually I'm gasing for one of those ltd's as well, d finishing details are quite impressive.

[TomAwesome]

My Ibanezes are nicer than my Agiles, but the Agiles have better specs. They're all decent guitars. 25.5" will work, depending on how low you're planning on tuning and what kind of strings you like, but 27" isn't a huge stretch.

[engage757]

dude, the Ibanez is gonna be a better instrument with at least some resale value, as opposed to the Agile, that is probably gonna have shoddy fretwork, cheap finishes, and cheaper hardware and electronics. My .02

[soliloquy]

Originally Posted by engage757

dude, the Ibanez is gonna be a better instrument with at least some resale value, as opposed to the Agile, that is probably gonna have shoddy fretwork, cheap finishes, and cheaper hardware and electronics. My .02

have you ever owned an agile?

i've owned 4, and each and every one of them had amazing fret work, in fact, some of the best fret work i've found under the 800d dollar mark. their finishes have been incredible and beautifully executed. and their hardware and electronics have been on par with LTD EC1000 line or Schecter of equal value.

and i have just one ibanez, but have tried numerous, and can say that they are just too different to even be compared to agile. but spec wise, the agiles are better built on paper. and that is true until you hit the prestige and premium line....



not saying that agiles are the greatest guitars out there, but you're a bit off