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Kali Yuga · 02-06-2011, 01:23 PM

Sorry, I searched and couldn't find anything helpful. There was so many results that weren't even closely related for some reason. I'm tuning to G standard with 62s and it's incredibly loose, but I've only been messing around. I searched around some websites but couldn't find strings that look decent enough to use. What do you suggest? I was thinking 70s, but I can't seem to find any.

EtherealEntity · 02-06-2011, 01:26 PM

I tune my 7 string to drop G# (that's D# standard with low G#), and use 11-49 + 70. It's a perfect match for my hands.
I would suggest a 70 for G also.
I use D'addario strings from Strings Direct website. The string is NW070. They always have plenty of less common gauges in stock and deliver very quickly. Also good deals on multipacks.

Kali Yuga · 02-06-2011, 02:50 PM

What similar American websites could I purchase strings?

potatohead · 02-07-2011, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

What similar American websites could I purchase strings?

www.juststrings.com

Dvaienat · 02-08-2011, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

Sorry, I searched and couldn't find anything helpful. There was so many results that weren't even closely related for some reason. I'm tuning to G standard with 62s and it's incredibly loose, but I've only been messing around. I searched around some websites but couldn't find strings that look decent enough to use. What do you suggest? I was thinking 70s, but I can't seem to find any.

What sort of strings do you like in E standard?
If you like 10-46, go with something like 80-59-46-36-26-17
That would give you the same tension (just about anyway).
If you like 9-42, then 70-52-42-30-18-14.
If you like rediculously tight strings like me, and would use 12-54 or 13-56 in standard, then go for 90-70-52-42-30-18. I'd go for this set, personally.

Kali Yuga · 02-12-2011, 08:20 AM

I bought some baritone guitar strings and the low 72 won't thread through the tuners on an Ibanez RG7420. Fail.

Dvaienat · 02-16-2011, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

I bought some baritone guitar strings and the low 72 won't thread through the tuners on an Ibanez RG7420. Fail.

Just drill out the tuner hole with a .078 drill bit.
Don't unwind the string; I have done this twice, and the tone of the string became deadened due to the windings loosening further up the string. I certainly didn't expect this.

shnizzle · 02-18-2011, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRioR

What about a set like:
0.10 - 0.13 - 0.17 - 0.30 - 0.42 - 0.52 - 0.68 ?

try d´addario EXL157 0.14 - 0.68 and add a 0.11 or something. those are typically d´addario - brilliant and powerful forever. i haven´t tried it yet but i´m gonna.

mikomiko · 02-23-2011, 06:33 PM

im new to 7's i currently own an ibanez RG7321 25.5 im plannin to tune it down to

ADGCFAD

would 11-60 work for me do i need to set the neck and bridge height?

Wiz · 02-26-2011, 04:34 AM

What gauge would you folks recommend for the following two configurations?

- 6 string - Drop C tuning
- 7 string - Open C tuning a la Devin Townsend

Preferably something I can get right out of the box, although I realize that's most likely not going to happen for the 7 string.

Wiz · 02-26-2011, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potatohead

www.juststrings.com

Definitely the best site out there.

SenorDingDong · 02-26-2011, 07:39 AM

A#D#G#C#F#A#D# i use .10, .13, .17, .28, .38, .48, .60

any suggestions for more balanced heavy bottom? I've seen Dean Markley make a .10, .13, .17, .30, .42, .52, .60

would that be a bit more balanced?
Most 7 string sets seems like the company just picked random strings sizes out of a bag and stuck them in a set.

MTech · 02-26-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jstring

A#D#G#C#F#A#D# i use .10, .13, .17, .28, .38, .48, .60

any suggestions for more balanced heavy bottom?

HRS-73 / .010-.013-.017-.030w-.042-.052-.064

Dvaienat · 02-26-2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiz

What gauge would you folks recommend for the following two configurations?

- 6 string - Drop C tuning
- 7 string - Open C tuning a la Devin Townsend

Preferably something I can get right out of the box, although I realize that's most likely not going to happen for the 7 string.

Drop C - 12-60 D'addario Heavy set
7 String Open C - 12-60 D'addario Heavy set + .080 D'addario.

Those will be well balanced and have perfect average (e.g. 10-46 in standard) tension for these tunings.

www.juststrings.com
www.stringsdirect.co.uk

Dvaienat · 02-26-2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jstring

A#D#G#C#F#A#D# i use .10, .13, .17, .28, .38, .48, .60

any suggestions for more balanced heavy bottom? I've seen Dean Markley make a .10, .13, .17, .30, .42, .52, .60

would that be a bit more balanced?
Most 7 string sets seems like the company just picked random strings sizes out of a bag and stuck them in a set.

Sounds like a great set, apart from the .060 on the bottom. Swap it for a .064 and it will be perfectly balanced.
I would agree, the people who put these sets together have no idea about string tension at all. Especially considering they work for string brands

potatohead · 02-27-2011, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiz

What gauge would you folks recommend for the following two configurations?

- 6 string - Drop C tuning
- 7 string - Open C tuning a la Devin Townsend

Preferably something I can get right out of the box, although I realize that's most likely not going to happen for the 7 string.

For drop C I like the DR Laiho sig set, 10-14-18-32-44-56. They generally play in drop C too, so whoulda thunk

. Daddario also makes a 11-14-19-32-44-56, but I hate D'addarios

.

ghostred7 · 02-27-2011, 09:27 AM

Bb-Eb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-Eb is what I tune. Per Wiki, Loomis uses Ernie Ball gauge 9-46 (guessing the Hybrid Slinky set: 46-35-26-16-11-9)+66.

This seem like a balanced enough setup? On my Les Paul, i use: 010 .013 .017 .030 .042 .052 (Slinky Top, Heavy Bottom). Would the .066 still be a good fit with this set? Should I persue the hybrids and .066?

Dvaienat · 02-27-2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostred7

Bb-Eb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-Eb is what I tune. Per Wiki, Loomis uses Ernie Ball gauge 9-46 (guessing the Hybrid Slinky set: 46-35-26-16-11-9)+66.

This seem like a balanced enough setup? On my Les Paul, i use: 010 .013 .017 .030 .042 .052 (Slinky Top, Heavy Bottom). Would the .066 still be a good fit with this set? Should I persue the hybrids and .066?

For the 10-52 set, get a .070. A 70 balances perfectly with a 52.
Also, 66 is too much for a 9-46 set. 64 would be a progressive tension balance and 62 would balance evenly. .066 balances exactly with a .050.

Wiz · 02-27-2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatG

Drop C - 12-60 D'addario Heavy set
7 String Open C - 12-60 D'addario Heavy set + .080 D'addario.

Those will be well balanced and have perfect average (e.g. 10-46 in standard) tension for these tunings.

www.juststrings.com
www.stringsdirect.co.uk

It's really cool that they have a pack specifically for drop C!!! Just ordered, hope I like it

Did a bit of googling and apparently Devin uses 10-56 + a 70 for the lowest string, if that's too weak I'll try your suggestion!

potatohead · 02-27-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiz

It's really cool that they have a pack specifically for drop C!!! Just ordered, hope I like it

Did a bit of googling and apparently Devin uses 10-56 + a 70 for the lowest string, if that's too weak I'll try your suggestion!

This is why tunings are super confusing for most people, companies can't even label things correctly. They aren't a drop C set, they're a C std set. In drop C the low C is going to be a bit looser than ideal.

Look at the tuning of each string, it's C std - http://store.daddario.com/category/3...ra_Heavy_12-60

aermetikvm · 03-04-2011, 04:02 PM

Ok. I own an Ibanez Apex2. Two days ago i bought a 0.80 bass string to go down to standard 8 string tuning. I am preety satisfied with the 0.80 it sounds awesome but i dont know that much about tension affecting the neck. the guitar was factory set to 0.10 - 0.60 strings. Is that 0.80 string too much? I am very afraid to not mess up my neck. I really dont want to destroy my guitar. How much time does it take for a neck to bend under that string tension?
i just wanna know if this is safe or if I have to remove that string .

espman · 03-04-2011, 04:05 PM

It'll be fine, there will definatly be a trussrod/intonation adjustment in your future, but it won't hurt the neck whatsoever.

Bigfan · 03-04-2011, 05:06 PM

Guitar necks are designed to withstand the force from the strings. I don't really think a neck has ever broken because of string-tension. If you're tuning to F# standard or somewhere around there, then there shouldn't really be much of an issue.

aermetikvm · 03-04-2011, 05:51 PM

ok thanks for the answers. i was thinking that 7 string necks have a limit of tension handling or something cause an 0.80 bass string is a pretty solid thing. yeah i tune to F so i think i can happily do my thing now . i'm relieved now

Bigfan · 03-04-2011, 06:08 PM

Remember, strings will break long before the neck will.

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02-06-2011, 01:23 PM	#251
Kali Yuga ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 855 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Tuning to G standard - strings? Sorry, I searched and couldn't find anything helpful. There was so many results that weren't even closely related for some reason. I'm tuning to G standard with 62s and it's incredibly loose, but I've only been messing around. I searched around some websites but couldn't find strings that look decent enough to use. What do you suggest? I was thinking 70s, but I can't seem to find any.

03-04-2011, 04:02 PM	#271
aermetikvm ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: dreamland Posts: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Please help i wanna know if my guitar will break :) Ok. I own an Ibanez Apex2. Two days ago i bought a 0.80 bass string to go down to standard 8 string tuning. I am preety satisfied with the 0.80 it sounds awesome but i dont know that much about tension affecting the neck. the guitar was factory set to 0.10 - 0.60 strings. Is that 0.80 string too much? I am very afraid to not mess up my neck. I really dont want to destroy my guitar. How much time does it take for a neck to bend under that string tension? i just wanna know if this is safe or if I have to remove that string .

03-04-2011, 04:05 PM	#272
espman Is beardless.... Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Airdrie, Alberta Posts: 2,075 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	It'll be fine, there will definatly be a trussrod/intonation adjustment in your future, but it won't hurt the neck whatsoever. .backwards sentences say to used I .again go I there !shit Oh. Please DO NOT start a new thread every time Rondo/Agile does something

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02-06-2011, 01:26 PM	#252
EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,270 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I tune my 7 string to drop G# (that's D# standard with low G#), and use 11-49 + 70. It's a perfect match for my hands. I would suggest a 70 for G also. I use D'addario strings from Strings Direct website. The string is NW070. They always have plenty of less common gauges in stock and deliver very quickly. Also good deals on multipacks.

02-06-2011, 02:50 PM	#253
Kali Yuga ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 855 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	What similar American websites could I purchase strings?

02-12-2011, 08:20 AM	#256
Kali Yuga ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 855 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I bought some baritone guitar strings and the low 72 won't thread through the tuners on an Ibanez RG7420. Fail.

02-23-2011, 06:33 PM	#259
mikomiko ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 9 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im new to 7's i currently own an ibanez RG7321 25.5 im plannin to tune it down to ADGCFAD would 11-60 work for me do i need to set the neck and bridge height?

02-26-2011, 04:34 AM	#260
Wiz ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 928 Thanked: 10 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What gauge would you folks recommend for the following two configurations? - 6 string - Drop C tuning - 7 string - Open C tuning a la Devin Townsend Preferably something I can get right out of the box, although I realize that's most likely not going to happen for the 7 string.

02-26-2011, 07:39 AM	#262
SenorDingDong Smeller of Smells Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bristol,CT Posts: 3,667 Thanked: 124 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	A#D#G#C#F#A#D# i use .10, .13, .17, .28, .38, .48, .60 any suggestions for more balanced heavy bottom? I've seen Dean Markley make a .10, .13, .17, .30, .42, .52, .60 would that be a bit more balanced? Most 7 string sets seems like the company just picked random strings sizes out of a bag and stuck them in a set.

02-27-2011, 09:27 AM	#267
ghostred7 SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 921 Thanked: 10 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bb-Eb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-Eb is what I tune. Per Wiki, Loomis uses Ernie Ball gauge 9-46 (guessing the Hybrid Slinky set: 46-35-26-16-11-9)+66. This seem like a balanced enough setup? On my Les Paul, i use: 010 .013 .017 .030 .042 .052 (Slinky Top, Heavy Bottom). Would the .066 still be a good fit with this set? Should I persue the hybrids and .066?

03-04-2011, 05:06 PM	#273
Bigfan sixstringer Join Date: May 2010 Location: Karmøy, Norway Posts: 2,406 Thanked: 13 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Guitar necks are designed to withstand the force from the strings. I don't really think a neck has ever broken because of string-tension. If you're tuning to F# standard or somewhere around there, then there shouldn't really be much of an issue.

03-04-2011, 05:51 PM	#274
aermetikvm ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: dreamland Posts: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok thanks for the answers. i was thinking that 7 string necks have a limit of tension handling or something cause an 0.80 bass string is a pretty solid thing. yeah i tune to F so i think i can happily do my thing now . i'm relieved now

03-04-2011, 06:08 PM	#275
Bigfan sixstringer Join Date: May 2010 Location: Karmøy, Norway Posts: 2,406 Thanked: 13 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Remember, strings will break long before the neck will.