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05-08-2007, 01:10 AM
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| R.I.P. Mike  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cracow, Poland Posts: 3,150
Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: a 6 string Washburn Rig: Behringer GM108 Thanked: 37
  | Differences between KAHLER and FLOYD Rose type bridges ? So.. What are the differences between KAHLER and FLOYD Rose type bridges ? The earlier Jeff Hanneman LTD signatures have floyd roses.. but Jeff uses Kahlers... so now the 2007 models have Kahler X-trems... What are the differences between them ? is the setup harder ? etc.. Like .. everything about trems  |
 
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05-08-2007, 01:18 AM
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| <3's Tsukasa   Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 16,751
Real Name: Kagami Main Seven: ESP H-207 Rig: Randall RG75G2C Thanked: 197
 | A kahler feels like a tunomatic bridge for the most part whereas the floyd feels like a strat bridge. They used floyds on his models while Kahler was under the weather but once Kahler came back they put them back on them. read Darren's post My Site:  əBCAirLast edited by D-EJ915; 05-08-2007 at 06:09 PM. |
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05-08-2007, 08:21 AM
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| Sanctity In Blasphemous Ruin • Super Moderator •  Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 22,502
Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 83
  | me too...  Glory and praise to Thee, Satan, on high, Where Thou didst reign, in Hell where Thou dost lie, Vanquished, silent, dreaming eternally. Grant that my soul some day rest close to Thee Under the Tree of Knowledge which shall spread Its branches like a Temple overhead. ~Charles Baudelaire http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal |
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05-08-2007, 08:42 AM
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| R.I.P. Mike Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cracow, Poland Posts: 3,150
Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: a 6 string Washburn Rig: Behringer GM108 Thanked: 37
| I just watched some videos on youtube.. of Slayer... And looks like Jeff is pulling up and down the kahler ... so ? ... |
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05-08-2007, 09:50 AM
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| Mr. Negative Pants™  Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 7,361
Main Seven: OMFG! EBMM JP7 Rig: GT6PowerBlockThiele Thanked: 32
| Kahlers absolutely DO pull up. I have owned one, so i can speak from first-hand experience. Some models, like the new "hybrid" models, allow you to lock out the pull-up motion so they're "dive only" which helps keep the guitar in tune if you break a string. Some key differences between Kahlers and Floyds: Floyds, like traditional Fender fulcrum tremolos, have their pivot point in front of the saddles. They pivot on sharpened knife edges against a steel post. When you push the bar down, it causes the strings to move up and forward (away from the pickups) and when you pull back, it pulls the strings down and back. Kahlers have their pivot point behind the saddles, and the saddles themselves (usually rollers) stay fixed throughout the trem's range. That means the string height in relation to the pickups remains constant. (At least until they reach the "slack" point where the pickups' magnetic field will pull them down to the pole pieces.) Kahlers pivot on a cam with ball bearings at either end. They are VERY smooth and can do a lot more subtle effects. Kahlers are also top-mounted and require far less wood to be removed from the guitar to install one. This space intentionally left blank. |
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05-08-2007, 09:55 AM
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| Cancer:The Crucifuct  Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,304
Real Name: Cancer Main Seven: Carvin 727 Main ERG: Carvin 727 Rig: Pod X3 Live -> PA Thanked: 11
| ^^^^^^Awesome post. Kahlers definitely pull up, youi can pull up at least a 1.5 steps easily, at least you can on my V220.... |
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05-08-2007, 09:54 PM
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| prototyping...   Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 3,526
Real Name: Leo Pedersen Main Seven: Raven 7 - my design Main ERG: Ergo 10, Ergo 9, Stick 8 Rig: 2101LTD>TS100>2x1936 Thanked: 36
| Darren summed it up for sure. One minor correction is that the Kahler Hybrids are designed to be locked in a fixed position with a small hex-screw, or left free floating. There's no down-only mode. |
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