22 fret 6 string tuned to A# = BAD ?

Brett89 · 04-16-2007, 03:10 PM

I just saw a few tempting Parker guitars and I love them. They cost a bit more then the 7string that I would be but I think they are much better then th RG7321 or the Washburn WG587...

The problem is... 22fret, 6 string, tuned down to A#? I would lose most of the high notes and that's not good for soloing

It's so shit, there are only a few 7 strings in HUN for my price range

distressed_romeo · 04-16-2007, 03:21 PM

It's totally your choice really. You'll have to decide whether you really can't live without the extra high notes.

One possibility, if you really prefer the six, is to use a Kings X or Zakk Wylde type tuning to give yourself the best of both worlds, for instance...

AEDGBE
AADGBE (Zakk uses this one a lot)
BF#DGBE (Kings X have quite a few songs in this one)
BADGBE (Again, another trademark Zakk tuning)

Naren · 04-20-2007, 03:45 AM

Like DR said, it's up to you to decide whether you need those higher notes or not. If I were you, I would hold off and get a 7-string so I could have the low notes, middle notes, and high notes. With a 6-string, you'll have to sacrifice something (either the high or the low -- or the middle in some of the tunings DR mentioned).

zimbloth · 04-20-2007, 03:48 AM

No problem at all, I've done it before with no problems. I've seen bands like Arch Enemy and Orgy do it too. Parkers are the best 6'ers around. I owned 2. Ironically, I tuned both of them to Bb. Those Parkers are the best for detuning, because its SO clear, so resonant, so alive, perfection in every way.

Brett89 · 04-21-2007, 01:19 AM

Well I have an idea but it's not so good for sweeping (I don't do that anyway) or if you want to play a scale through several strings....

So, from deepest to highest string: A# D# G# C# A# D#
... so there is no G string here. What do you think about this?

shadowgenesis · 04-21-2007, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett89

Well I have an idea but it's not so good for sweeping (I don't do that anyway) or if you want to play a scale through several strings....

So, from deepest to highest string: A# D# G# C# A# D#
... so there is no G string here. What do you think about this?

interesting approach. I've never heard of somebody just kinda skipping a large chunk of notes. Dunno how that works as far as string tension and tone and such. The tonal difference will be a big jump from the C# to the A#. But then if you're basicaly doing it intentionally with that seperation, it could be interesting. Have you messed around with that tuning at all?

distressed_romeo · 04-21-2007, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett89

Well I have an idea but it's not so good for sweeping (I don't do that anyway) or if you want to play a scale through several strings....

So, from deepest to highest string: A# D# G# C# A# D#
... so there is no G string here. What do you think about this?

It certainly sounds interesting...if you do give it a go, let us all know how well it works, as I'd be interested to hear the results.

Brett89 · 04-21-2007, 01:23 PM

Allright then I will tell how is it working if I try it.

The main idea is that I want a tuning on a 6string that's ok for playing riffs writen for 7string guitar, without losing the high notes.The disadvantage that I found is that you can only play chords on the low strings, you can't do sweeps, and you can't do fast runs, I mean, you know start a scale from the low strings and play it to the highest strings. But I think you can still play solo's in this tuning...

I was also thinking that I just tune my 6string like a 7string and I will lose my high E string, but I tried it out and I didn't like soloing without those high notes.

distressed_romeo · 04-21-2007, 04:27 PM

Sounds like you'd be better off just holding out for a seven-string to be honest.

Brett89 · 04-22-2007, 03:48 AM

Yeah, that will be the best choise... the only problem, that I said before, is that there are realy few 7 strings here, and they are overpriced... so it will be a long time to get the money.

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04-16-2007, 03:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brett89 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hungary, Bicske city Posts: 530 Thanked: 14	22 fret 6 string tuned to A# = BAD ? I just saw a few tempting Parker guitars and I love them. They cost a bit more then the 7string that I would be but I think they are much better then th RG7321 or the Washburn WG587... The problem is... 22fret, 6 string, tuned down to A#? I would lose most of the high notes and that's not good for soloing It's so shit, there are only a few 7 strings in HUN for my price range

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04-20-2007, 03:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Naren OldschoolGhettostyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 12,389 Real Name: Eric Main Seven: RG1527-GK, RG7EXFX2-IPT Rig: GNX3000 Thanked: 34	Like DR said, it's up to you to decide whether you need those higher notes or not. If I were you, I would hold off and get a 7-string so I could have the low notes, middle notes, and high notes. With a 6-string, you'll have to sacrifice something (either the high or the low -- or the middle in some of the tunings DR mentioned).

04-20-2007, 03:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 10,946 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 58	No problem at all, I've done it before with no problems. I've seen bands like Arch Enemy and Orgy do it too. Parkers are the best 6'ers around. I owned 2. Ironically, I tuned both of them to Bb. Those Parkers are the best for detuning, because its SO clear, so resonant, so alive, perfection in every way.

04-21-2007, 01:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Brett89 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hungary, Bicske city Posts: 530 Thanked: 14	Well I have an idea but it's not so good for sweeping (I don't do that anyway) or if you want to play a scale through several strings.... So, from deepest to highest string: A# D# G# C# A# D# ... so there is no G string here. What do you think about this?

04-21-2007, 01:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Brett89 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hungary, Bicske city Posts: 530 Thanked: 14	Allright then I will tell how is it working if I try it. The main idea is that I want a tuning on a 6string that's ok for playing riffs writen for 7string guitar, without losing the high notes.The disadvantage that I found is that you can only play chords on the low strings, you can't do sweeps, and you can't do fast runs, I mean, you know start a scale from the low strings and play it to the highest strings. But I think you can still play solo's in this tuning... I was also thinking that I just tune my 6string like a 7string and I will lose my high E string, but I tried it out and I didn't like soloing without those high notes.

04-21-2007, 04:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
distressed_romeo Sumerian 7string Sorcery Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Eleven-day Empire Posts: 9,593 Real Name: I have many... Main Seven: C7 Hellraiser/LTD M207 Main ERG: Aria bass tuned in fifths Rig: POD v2.0 Thanked: 178	Sounds like you'd be better off just holding out for a seven-string to be honest.

04-22-2007, 03:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Brett89 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hungary, Bicske city Posts: 530 Thanked: 14	Yeah, that will be the best choise... the only problem, that I said before, is that there are realy few 7 strings here, and they are overpriced... so it will be a long time to get the money.


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