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metalfiend666 · 01-22-2007, 06:25 AM

As others have said, what he's shown you is an inversion of the chord. As long as the chord contains the notes C, E and G it will always be a C Major chord, but placing the notes in different orders can have drastic differences in how the chord sounds. It can be very cool. If you've got access to a piano or keyboard try playing a C, an E and a G anywhere on the keyboard. You could have a very low G, a mid area E and a very high C and it would still be C Major, it would just sound very different. Try chaging the positions of them and see the affects it has.

Brett89 · 01-23-2007, 09:14 AM

...well my teacher didn't wrote down the minor B chord in my book... it's a mistake or there isn't any minor B chord?

Other thing... my teacher wrote down the major B chord something like this....

E----1------------------------
B----2-------------------------
G----2---------------------------
D----2-------------------------
A----1------------------------
E----------------------------

... but there's no B note in this chord... or am I stupid?

Please help!

Drew · 01-23-2007, 09:54 AM

Close - that's a Bb major chord, it's a half step below a B major chord.

b = flat, a half step below the indicated note.
# = sharp, a half step above the indicated note.

There's a Bm chord, he just hasn't shown it to you.

Naren · 01-23-2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett89

...well my teacher didn't wrote down the minor B chord in my book... it's a mistake or there isn't any minor B chord?

Other thing... my teacher wrote down the major B chord something like this....

E----1------------------------
B----2-------------------------
G----2---------------------------
D----2-------------------------
A----1------------------------
E----------------------------

... but there's no B note in this chord... or am I stupid?

Please help!

Like Drew said, that's Bb (but not a Bb major chord). A Bb major chord would be:

E----1------------------------
B----3-------------------------
G----3---------------------------
D----3-------------------------
A----1------------------------
E----------------------------

This would be Bb minor:

E----1------------------------
B----2-------------------------
G----3---------------------------
D----3-------------------------
A----1------------------------
E----------------------------

There are major and minor chords for ever note.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

Close - that's a Bb major chord, it's a half step below a B major chord.

I don't think that's what his teacher wrote, because that wouldn't be a Bb major chord. I don't know what it'd be. Something pretty dischordant.

Brett89 · 01-23-2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naren

Like Drew said, that's Bb (but not a Bb major chord). A Bb major chord would be:

E----1------------------------
B----3-------------------------
G----3---------------------------
D----3-------------------------
A----1------------------------
E----------------------------

This would be Bb minor:

E----1------------------------
B----2-------------------------
G----3---------------------------
D----3-------------------------
A----1------------------------
E----------------------------

So a B major chord would be this?

----2-------------------------
----4-------------------------
----4--------------------------
----4--------------------------
----2--------------------------
-------------------------------

...and a B minor looks like this?

------2------------------------
------3----------------------
------4-----------------------
------4----------------------
------2----------------------
------------------------

playstopause · 01-23-2007, 10:55 AM

Exactly.

Like i said in a previous post, if you wanna get a minor chord, just take the "third" and bring it down a half step.

B major ROOT = B / THIRD = D sharp / FIFTH = F sharp
B minor ROOT = B / THIRD = D / FIFTH = F sharp

Naren · 01-23-2007, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett89

So a B major chord would be this?

----2-------------------------
----4-------------------------
----4--------------------------
----4--------------------------
----2--------------------------
-------------------------------

...and a B minor looks like this?

------2------------------------
------3----------------------
------4-----------------------
------4----------------------
------2----------------------
------------------------

Yep.

Although I usually play my B major chords like this:

------------------------------
----4-------------------------
----4--------------------------
----4--------------------------
----2--------------------------
-------------------------------

IbanezFan · 01-23-2007, 12:39 PM

Awesome forum.. so helpful

cvinos · 01-25-2007, 03:40 PM

For an overview of standard triads, that is chords with three tones constructed by stacks of thirds, you may also read the thread "Voicings" http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/music-theory-lessons-and-techniques/19984-voicings.html I started in the Lessons and Technique section. The thread is meant to also cover more chords with more tones and stuff, but it starts with the standard triads.

Brett89 · 01-31-2007, 11:54 AM

Please kill me!!!

Oh man, I'm idiot I know, but I practice the chords, pratice the scales and I don't know... it feels shit, I mean I'm not comfortable with the thing, it sound shit, and sometimes I feel it's better if I put down a guitar... I feel frustrated...

I think that it doesn't matter how many scales and chords I know, even If I pick a single note it sound terrible...

What's the problem, what sould I practice? Or my approach of guitarplaying isn't good?

01-22-2007, 06:25 AM	#11
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Brett89 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hungary, Bicske city Posts: 514 Thanked: 14	...well my teacher didn't wrote down the minor B chord in my book... it's a mistake or there isn't any minor B chord? Other thing... my teacher wrote down the major B chord something like this.... E----1------------------------ B----2------------------------- G----2--------------------------- D----2------------------------- A----1------------------------ E---------------------------- ... but there's no B note in this chord... or am I stupid? Please help!

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cvinos Chord Librarian(apr) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 112 Thanked: 3	For an overview of standard triads, that is chords with three tones constructed by stacks of thirds, you may also read the thread "Voicings" http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/music-theory-lessons-and-techniques/19984-voicings.html I started in the Lessons and Technique section. The thread is meant to also cover more chords with more tones and stuff, but it starts with the standard triads.

01-31-2007, 11:54 AM	#20
Brett89 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hungary, Bicske city Posts: 514 Thanked: 14	Please kill me!!! Oh man, I'm idiot I know, but I practice the chords, pratice the scales and I don't know... it feels shit, I mean I'm not comfortable with the thing, it sound shit, and sometimes I feel it's better if I put down a guitar... I feel frustrated... I think that it doesn't matter how many scales and chords I know, even If I pick a single note it sound terrible... What's the problem, what sould I practice? Or my approach of guitarplaying isn't good?


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