Bass help for a guitar geek

Stitch · 03-01-2008, 08:20 PM

I need to invest in a bass for my recordings and to have another thing to waste my time on.

First things first - I'm RUBBISH at bass, but I know what I want to achieve with it...but I have no idea what to plump for.

I've played a few, and I've come to the conclusion that I LOVE the K5, and the Mike D'Antonio signatures. But I need a 5 string, and I need it to not break the bank.

I don't care about brand, but I've had great experiences with Ibanez so far. I would be happy to have a Schecter though.

Any suggestions for recording it though? I have a Pod XT, but no model packs...

eleven59 · 03-01-2008, 09:22 PM

Ibanez basses are excellent for guitarists as they have reasonably thin necks and feel very "guitar-like" for basses.

I love my Fender Jazz Bass V but the neck is not exactly thin, and you definitely feel like you're fighting with it a bit (which I love, but then, I'm a Strat player

).

My old bassist has an Ibanez SR305 I think, and briefly had an SR 6-string of somesort and they both felt and sounded incredible. I haven't played the K5, but from what I've seen it's basically an SR with Fieldy's choice of woods, hardware and electronics. I say find an Ibanez 5-string bass in your price range and if you like the feel but not the sound, you can always do the standard Ibanez trick of swapping out the stock pickups.

Variant · 03-01-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitch

I need to invest in a bass for my recordings and to have another thing to waste my time on.

First things first - I'm RUBBISH at bass, but I know what I want to achieve with it...but I have no idea what to plump for.

I've played a few, and I've come to the conclusion that I LOVE the K5, and the Mike D'Antonio signatures. But I need a 5 string, and I need it to not break the bank.

I don't care about brand, but I've had great experiences with Ibanez so far. I would be happy to have a Schecter though.

Any suggestions for recording it though? I have a Pod XT, but no model packs...

Ibanez SR's come to mind so far as good (playability as well as sound) budget basses go... and there should ne enough used ones out there to find a higer end used model. IMHO, used high-end > new low end.

As for recording... the POD is actually pretty awesome and has worked for me (but is worthless without the bass packs). Personally, I still think you need a good pre, and a good compressor. I'm partial to the Sansamp DI (or RBI, really, because of the biamp loop) and Boss LMB-3 or the like...

Stitch · 03-01-2008, 09:46 PM

...to go before the POD?

So guitar/bass into stuff into POD?

What would the pre do for me, exactly?

Variant · 03-01-2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitch

...to go before the POD?

So guitar/bass into stuff into POD?

What would the pre do for me, exactly?

Color the sound the way a guitar pre/overdrive pedal would... also add some much needed "feel" to the dynamic response. I find where the POD has some great features so far as amp modeling, cab simulation, and effects go... it responds rather poorly to playing dynamics. A pre isn't a necessity per se, if you find yourself happy with some combination of amp & stompbox models... and don't mind the lack of response from it, but I've found them lacking in those respects.

Stitch · 03-01-2008, 10:06 PM

So what would you recommend as a setup? pre -> limiter -> POD, or just lose the POD entirely?

Variant · 03-01-2008, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitch

So what would you recommend as a setup? pre -> limiter -> POD, or just lose the POD entirely?

I'd go comp/limiter first (set it to a pretty aggressive setting so far as the dynamics taming goes as you always toggle it off and use the POD one for more response-sensitive kinda stuff), then the pre, then into the POD. If you have something like the RBI, you can sidechain the POD and use it for a biamp type of sound (like I prefer) or just for the effects, as with a bright bass sound you need to notch the high end out the reflections, and you always need to take the bottom out of echoes and whatnot...

A lot of it depends on what kind of bass sound you like. Something simple and straightforward, you can generally go bass > comp > board if you've got enough flexibility with your bass' tonal controls... if you're into shaping with things like overdrive, synths, effects, gads o' EQ and whatnot (guilty)... then you'll want more in your signal chain. It no different than guitar in that respect, just how you approach it.

Crucified · 03-01-2008, 10:48 PM

ibanez sr905 is dope!

ibznorange · 03-02-2008, 12:09 AM

The srx 505's are fucking amazing too man

eleven59 · 03-02-2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibznorange

The srx 505's are fucking amazing too man

I've heard excellent tones from the 4-string version.

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03-01-2008, 08:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 6,768 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 107	Bass help for a guitar geek I need to invest in a bass for my recordings and to have another thing to waste my time on. First things first - I'm RUBBISH at bass, but I know what I want to achieve with it...but I have no idea what to plump for. I've played a few, and I've come to the conclusion that I LOVE the K5, and the Mike D'Antonio signatures. But I need a 5 string, and I need it to not break the bank. I don't care about brand, but I've had great experiences with Ibanez so far. I would be happy to have a Schecter though. Any suggestions for recording it though? I have a Pod XT, but no model packs...

03-01-2008, 09:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
eleven59 Terrorhorse Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,656 Real Name: Aaron Main Seven: Schecter Hellraiser C7 Rig: Line6 Flextone II HD Thanked: 92	Ibanez basses are excellent for guitarists as they have reasonably thin necks and feel very "guitar-like" for basses. I love my Fender Jazz Bass V but the neck is not exactly thin, and you definitely feel like you're fighting with it a bit (which I love, but then, I'm a Strat player ). My old bassist has an Ibanez SR305 I think, and briefly had an SR 6-string of somesort and they both felt and sounded incredible. I haven't played the K5, but from what I've seen it's basically an SR with Fieldy's choice of woods, hardware and electronics. I say find an Ibanez 5-string bass in your price range and if you like the feel but not the sound, you can always do the standard Ibanez trick of swapping out the stock pickups. --------------- Eleven59 Your Extended Network

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ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 7,281 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Ir now Sevenless :squint: Main ERG: A Dead Cat Rig: Mesa Rectoverb Combo Thanked: 41	The srx 505's are fucking amazing too man Reverse Headstocks or Bust Dude...i just got a spam email that was titled "Funky date rape trick" -Zepp88 I just got another funny email "Her pussy smiled at me" -Zepp88 Don't tell me you haven't heard of Raptor Jesus It's important that you know this information :headnod: It will decide your fate when we are pwned. -JoeOvChaos I was going KAT KAT KAT KAT and you were going KAT... chk... KAT... chk-die. -TomAwesome

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Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 6,768 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 107	...to go before the POD? So guitar/bass into stuff into POD? What would the pre do for me, exactly?

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Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 6,768 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 107	So what would you recommend as a setup? pre -> limiter -> POD, or just lose the POD entirely?

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