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Unread 12-21-2011, 07:29 PM   #1
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NBD: Here be weird shit ('80s content)

It's a 1987 (pre-Fender) Kubicki Factor.

In eye-raping seafoam green.



Love the headless tuning system; very smooth and much easier to turn than the Steinberger system. Plus you can use single-ball-end strings, which is one reason why I never got into the Steinberger headlesses.



It's got some chips, dings, and knocks, but the frets are practically pristine, the action is low, and it is just incredibly loud, clear, and resonant unplugged.



Headless means easy truss rod access too!



Speaking of the neck, it's a 21-ply maple laminate, apparently, with an ebony fretboard and 23 frets. It shipped from southern California to New York on a below-freezing day and arrived with pretty much perfect relief, so I'm guessing it's stable.



Then there's this thing:



It's essentially a D-tuner that lets you keep everything else the same position-wise. Comes in handy for a few songs my band does where we pedal off the low D; much easier to do on this thing than a 5er. 32" scale, with the D extended to 36."





Pickups with aerodynamic toan scoop!



A few more knobs than I usually like, but it sounds pretty damn good, with a very modern "hi-fi" attack and voicing that I don't really have in any of my other basses.

It's got a six-way "voicing selector" (kind of a varitone, really) with two active and three passive modes plus an "off" mode. There's an 18v preamp with stacked boost-only treble and bass knobs, and stacked volume/blend for the neck pickup.



Definitely a bit weird looking though; I dig it, but it's not for everyone:





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Unread 12-21-2011, 07:38 PM   #2
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Unread 12-21-2011, 07:49 PM   #3
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The bridge and the "D-tuner"/extended string setup are very similar to recent pieces by Ola Strandberg and Rick Toone. Except for, y'know, the part where this is a 25-year-old instrument. Nice score!
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Unread 12-21-2011, 08:05 PM   #4
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Unread 12-21-2011, 08:34 PM   #5
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Unread 12-21-2011, 09:53 PM   #6
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Unread 12-21-2011, 10:01 PM   #8
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Unread 12-21-2011, 10:07 PM   #9
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The ESP Funichar guitar has a similar drop-D thing going on. I'd really like to give something like that a shot. Sweet NBD, broseph.
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Unread 12-21-2011, 10:16 PM   #10
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Did not see you being into headless at all; cool
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Unread 12-21-2011, 10:43 PM   #11
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Did not see you being into headless at all; cool
Nah, headless systems are pretty cool. I really dig the Klein and Tesla body shapes too.

My only problem with most headless systems is that they typically require one or more of the following:

-special double-ball strings (Steinberger)
-Allen keys for string changes (Strandberg and others)
-a tendonitis-inducing amount of force to grip and turn the tuner (I am not joking, sadly; that kind of grip-and-twist-a-very-hard-to-turn-small-cylinder motion seriously ....s with my fingers and wrist; this is an issue with the Steinbergers since there's little mechanical advantage and turning the damn things is actually really hard. It looks like it would be a similar problem with the current Strandberg design, as well as the ABM headless system and the one on the Teuffel Tesla.)

Because this uses worm gears to turn big string "wheels" there's a lot more mechanical advantage and they turn as easy as normal tuning keys. Also, the balance is fantastic, and it's a really distinctive-sounding bass.
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Unread 12-21-2011, 10:57 PM   #12
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Unread 12-21-2011, 11:57 PM   #13
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Didn't I see this instrument over on the TalkBass classifieds?

Every time I see one of these Kubickis, I think of Stu Hamm's two albums, Radio Free Albemuth and Kings of Sleep. I remember Stu doing around doing the workshops at the various guitar stores, demoing how he could easily flip the low D lever easily and repeatedly over the course of a few measures.

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Unread 12-22-2011, 06:30 AM   #14
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If I remember correctly, Sean Malone played these in his Focus days, right?
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Unread 12-22-2011, 06:36 AM   #15
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I love these things.

They may be ugly as all sin, but REALLY comfortable. Not to mention way ahead of it's time. It's interesting to think, even after nearly three decades 99% of the industry still hasn't caught up.

Congrats, and great score!
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Kings of Sleep anyone?

Fabulous bases.

Count Zero - I SO nearly dropped guitar for bass.

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That is awesome... Amazing that it is so old too! With the drop tuning thingy, is the only advantage of having it clamped down where the nut is, that you can use the e as a pedal note? I'm guessing it also is useful if you have guitarists switching between drop and standard tuning.

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Unread 12-22-2011, 09:31 AM   #20
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Reminds me a lot of a Strandberg with the extended string thing.

That shit's the tits. Seafoam green is one of my favorite colors. Congrats!
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Reminds me a lot of a Strandberg with the extended string thing.

That shit's the tits. Seafoam green is one of my favorite colors. Congrats!
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Reminds me a lot of a Strandberg with the extended string thing.

That shit's the tits. Seafoam green is one of my favorite colors. Congrats!
Although, as has been mentioned, this is 25 years old, and likely where Strandberg got the idea from

But yeah. Seriously ahead of its time. Kubicki still makes these, pretty much unchanged (although he uses pretty woods and transparent finishes these days) and they're STILL way ahead of most modern instruments.

The worst part is, now I really want a Factor 5, with the same bridge and tuners... none of this Key Factor stuff. But as near as I can tell they've never built one, and it would be expensive as .... if they did (the new Factors are something like $3-4 grand these days!)
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