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Unread 07-03-2010, 08:19 PM   #1
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That fretless Warwick has no fret buzz...

So I was in my local Guitar Center trying out a fretless 4 string Warwick Thumb. (I own a fretless Corvette model because I got it for a steal on Ebay but I think the Thumb is just an amazing bass overall.) Anyway I was jamming along, had it plugged into an Ampeg SVT Classic (you know, THE bass head since like the late 60s) and was getting some awesome tones out of this setup.

After a while a GC employee takes notice and walks by to ask how I was liking everything. He goes into sales pitch mode after I say I'm really digging the sounds and comments on how high of quality Warwick instruments are and then proceeds to tell me "wow, that bass has like almost no fret buzz, you can tell it's really well-made" I stop playing immediately and give him a quizzical look and reply "...uh.. yeah.. it has no frets." Just when I think he's said the stupidest thing ever, he keeps talking...

He then proceeds to lean on the amp and then suddenly pulls back and puts his hand on top of the Ampeg head and remarks "oh man, something must be wrong with this amp, it's getting really warm!" I reply calmly "Of course, it's an all-tube amp, they tend to get a little warm" The employee then exclaims "A tube bass amp? I thought that tubes were only for guitar amps?"

Now I know tons of people have plenty of stories about dumb employees at the big brand stores but come on! This was almost as bad as the Mitsubishi dealer salesman that told me when I asked him a basic question about the Lancer Evolution that "I'd probably know more about the car than him." Where are the qualified salespeople in this world?

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Unread 07-03-2010, 08:29 PM   #2
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Qualified salespeople are generally the ones who are making too much money to bother working at selling what they know anything about.
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Unread 07-03-2010, 08:31 PM   #3
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Also, while the guy is obviously an idiot, there are a number of modern "SVTs" in that traditional headshell that are solid state like the SVT-350 and SVT-450, and they're way more common in music stores than the CLs and VRs.

If GCs and the like weren't such retail hellholes, they might get some better service. But there are better places to work for more money.
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Also, while the guy is obviously an idiot, there are a number of modern "SVTs" in that traditional headshell that are solid state like the SVT-350 and SVT-450, and they're way more common in music stores than the CLs and VRs.
True, but this was the Classic SVT vintage looking model that was quite expensive. If there was one bass amp in the store he should know about, it should be that one. It's like the Fender Strat of bass amps.

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Unread 07-04-2010, 12:10 AM   #7
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True, but this was the Classic SVT vintage looking model that was quite expensive. If there was one bass amp in the store he should know about, it should be that one. It's like the Fender Strat of bass amps.
Also, you're expecting what is probably a guitar kid to know about bass stuff. In my experience, the average GC employee knows enough about guitars and guitar amps to sell them to the average person, but absolutely nothing about bass gear.

Just last week I had asked someone to pull a bass down from a high rack that I couldn't reach (being only 5'8".) I said "The red P bass with the dark wenge neck up there." There was only one P-bass, and the only other red one was an Ibanez BTB. It was also labeled "Red P-Bass with Warmoth Wenge Neck." He reached for the Ibanez.
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Unread 07-04-2010, 12:12 AM   #8
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Fretless basses can buzz, just like fretted ones. While it's not technically "fret buzz" I'd be lying if I said I never used that particular term off hand to describe what is really "fingerboard buzz". Getting a fretboard to be shaped perfectly for a fretless instrument is an art form when done right, just like fretwork.

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Fretless basses can buzz, just like fretted ones.
Being the Jaco Pastorius fan that I am I like that buzz. I tried some groundwound strings on mine to ease the wear and tear on the fretboard but it doesn't give that nice warm buzzy sound that roundwounds give. They also sound so lifeless since they aren't as bright as roundwounds are so I'm going to switch back.

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Wow... I would have SUCH fun with someone like that by telling them all kinds of false facts, but yeah that's me
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wow

i work in a misuc store and everyone there actaully knows what theyr talking about with most anything, not just the instruments they play

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The semi-technical term for the sound of roundwounds on a fretless is "mwah," apparently

Very fun sound.
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The semi-technical term for the sound of roundwounds on a fretless is "mwah," apparently

Very fun sound.
Ohhh yeah that's what it's called, thanks I forgot the actual name of it. You are correct it is called "mwah" Can't get enough of that sound!

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