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Old 04-05-2008, 12:45 AM   #1360 (permalink)
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Mvp = The best player on the best team.
I respect your definition, but history says the best players on the best teams in the regular season don't always win the MVP. When Nash won it in 05-06, the Suns didn't have the best overall record, same when KG won it in 03-04, TD 01-02, AI 00-01...


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the player who has given the most to make their team better.
That much I agreed.


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Because of kobe's piss poor and often bitchy pre-season attitude this race comes down to kg and cp3, with kg getting my vote.
OK... but you also said the following...


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As far as what they will do in the playoffs? irrelevant when speaking of the regular season mvp award.
Right, the MVP is about the regular season. So if anything happens in the Playoffs is irrelevant, what makes anything happened in the PRE-season... hell, how about the OFF-season matter? And to be fair, Kobe has been keeping his mouth shut ever since day 1 of training camp. He has been nothing but professional (at least on the court) since day 1 against the Rockets! Be fair, dude.

Plus, before Feb 1st when the Gasol trade took place, the Lakers were 29-16, that's good for 55% ball. And that's out west when he didn't have nearly enough help, and with Bynum, Ariza (one of the most underrated one-on-one perimeter defenders) and Mihm all out of actions.


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kg is the best player on the best team. Dirk won it last season. I didn't feel that he was was the rightful owner of that award. But he was the best player on the best team during the regular season. That is how the people voting for this award look at it. Boston was the worst team last season, now they are the best. As far as what they will do in the playoffs? irrelevant when speaking of the regular season mvp award. If you think ray allen and paul peirce could turn the worst into first alone you are nuts. Look at the impact kg has had. Let me get this out there- I never liked allen or peirce. I hated the fact that they very rarely played defense. I hate those players that only put effort into playing one end of the floor. they come off as lazy and careless. Kg has not only these guys looking like defensive players of the year but this whole team has adopted is "play both ends of the floor as hard as you can" mentality.

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As for your kobe bid- that team was just a healthy season away from being at least a 50 win club with the roster it had at the beginning of the season. they are highly overlooked. You saw how well they have done the past 2 seasons before being stricken by injury. As we both agree it's part of the game. that being said- kobe is great but he has some real help now. Bynum and gasol in the post is huge. Your saying kobe should be the mvp. the player who has given the most to make his team better? Dude, just 5 months ago he was demanding to be traded! He didn't even want to be there. He knocked his teammates, his coaching staff, and the lakers organization. Now that the team came out healthy and is winning games he wants to be there. Does that sounds like a mvp to you? A trully great player will stick it out through good and bad times. Look at kg - that guy rotted away in minnesota before the team finally said enough is enough.
Funny how you flip-flop your opinion in mere 20 or so days, because on March 14th you said the following...

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This years mvp goes to either Garnett in Boston or Kobe in L.A. Thost 2 are the biggest difference makers in the nba for their respective team. I personally think Kobe deserves it more. He has done more with less talent and expectations.
All in all, let's hope the MVP does NOT go to LeBron


Sidenote: I got yesterday off and was about to watch them Bulls @ Cavs, and guess what happened? There was a MAJOR technical malfunction at the HQ of my cable carrier, and we didn't get anything at all!!! Good news is that, they are going to add one game back on the schedule before the season is out to make up for the loss. I think they are adding the Jazz @ Spurs.

Also, just watched the Mavs @ Lakers... and that game was shown in HD!!! Holy crap, it looks so fucking good in HD on my 42" plasma. NBA in HD FTW!!!

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