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Originally Posted by Korbain

well, you took it out of context, i was comparing it too the hype, i should have worded it better, my bad. It was more whole "halo is the greatest FPS ever made!!!" when clearly it wasn't. And i put half life like that, what i said, great game, but not ground breaking to make it best FPS ever. It had a great atmosphere, the graphics were pretty solid (though i still think doom 3 had the better graphics in the ID vs Valve graphics battle thing), and the plot was ok (nothing special by any means). Was it revolutionary? no! Duke Nukem 3d, that was something special, doom 2, that was something special. Deus Ex, maybe not a full out FPS, but that was a FPS with a mad twist in it, prob the best game i ever played!

I try not too look at games as in "oh this was released 98, how can you can compare it to something more recent". A ground breaking FPS takes brains to create something unique, not evolving from something was good a few years ago and adding vehicles etc. Though in saying that, i see where you are coming from lol.



dude, i been playing games since like, wolf 3d came out (maybe 3 or 4 years old ) lol. My dad got mad discounts on PC's and shit because he works for xerox, so i've grown up with PC's, and dad always got games from his mates at work. First games i ever played, wolf 3d, dangerous dave, the ninja turtles game *you run around and go down drains and shit lol* and some other random, 80's sorta looking action game, i can't member the name, but you had sunnies and shot big white bullets and had rockets n shit lol. I won't say i'm a nerd, but believe me, i've been a gamer for a mega long time, and proud of it watching something evolve from how it was say, 15 years ago, its fucking bullshit when you look back on it. So i get a bit passionate about this sorta stuff.

The original Half Life won countless Game of the Year awards and is the best selling PC shooter of all time. The second one is an equally huge critical success. We were talking about the first one here, not the second one, but I think you are talking about the second one now, comparing it to Doom 3. Doom 3 was, like most id games, an elaborate tech demo and it played as such. Half Life still looked great but actually had entertaining gameplay as well, and in the end is the one people are actually still talking about.

What did Duke 3D add to the genre? One liners and a cool protagonist... Doom 2 was just Doom 1 again. Half Life is the first game that really had a story, was very engrossing, had sweet gameplay, good graphics for the time, great enemy AI, some cool puzzles, it was the total package and up to that point and probably until System Shock 2 (which didn't have the widespread appeal of Half Life and its mods) it was the epitome of first person shooters.