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Old 12-14-2007, 06:27 AM   #57
7 Dying Trees
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Well done Doug! If you noticed, you have theChoice of Bareknuckle, DiMarzio, Haeussel or Lundgren. Now you guys know a set of bareknuckles/lundgrens will cost you 400-450$, so compare that to some crappy stock pickups...

It's still customisable as well, and how many production guitars can you get that are
Swamp Idigbo? To be honest, I think that is more than reasonably priced for what is still a hand finished guitar, so I don't see why people are bitching.

The only reason people always bitch about blackmachine are:
a) The dollar is shit. Blame your economy, not a guy who lives in london and is try to make a living doing what he loves
b) You guys over in the states are too used to cheap gear. We pay through our noses, if amps were as cheap over here as they are over there I'd have a field day. As it stands, at around 5500$-6500$ a mesa roadking is unnatianable.
c) None of the people bitching have ever played one. Play one and you'll see the amount of effort and thought that goes into each one.

Honestly guys, it costs us 4000-4500$ STILL to buy a dual rectifier. A mesa cab costs 2000$ over here, basically a VHT UL, and a Diezel VH4 are in the same ballpark money wise as a Mesa Dual Rectifier.

Let me do this. I'll take a production model Ibanez, superstrat shape, fixed bridge:
Ibanez RGA321F (GAK)
Now I am going to add in 200£ of Bareknuckles pickups bringing it to 1100£

So a production model guitar, with the pickups you can have in the B6 is actually 50£ more expensive than A hand Finished, Hand assembled guitar, made from select woods with custom luthier touches like the headstock overlay, in woods you simply CANNOT get on a production instrument.

Now, to all the little whinging muppets out there, now do you think he is overpriced? Maybe overpriced for you, but I for one applaud that Doug is trying to make his instruments more accessible without sacrificing quality and his own pride in his guitars. Also, just remember, next time you walk into guitar centre, and get that killer deal on a mesa, that we, in europe, are paying AT LEAST twice as much.

So quit your whinging, because quite frankly, and I think a few others from this side of the pond, I really have had enough of people complaining about the price of an instrument they are never even going to buy. Hell, for us over here they aren't cheap, but after having played them and just been in love with them for years now, they are worth more than every penny, and over here you'd be stupid to buy a Jem over a blackmachine.

If another custom luthier will build you a guitar for half price, then go there.


Here's the specs:

A stripped down B2, this is what many people have asked for.
It is still a handbuilt guitar but with conventional woods and without embellishments. The main focus, as it has always been, is on tone and outright playability.
neck
Maple laminate with volute.

Two way trussrod.

Scale length 650mm(Fender) 24 frets

43mm nut.

Fingerboard and matching headstock overlay in Indian Rosewood.

Dunlop 6100 jumbo fretwire.


body
Swamp Idigbo 35mm thick.

One or two piece.


pickups

Choice of Bareknuckle, DiMarzio, Haeussel or Lundgren.

hardware

Top of the range Gotoh.

Cosmo black finish.

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