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Originally Posted by wes225  does it really matter? when we die we'll find out whats real. so why worry about it now? |
What if you don't find out ANYTHING when you die? What if you just go to sleep and never wake up? Like shutting off a computer and never turning it back on. What if the idea of a soul and a spirit is just an idea people long ago created to represent the part of their mind that controlled their feelings and expressed an interest in religion?
If there is no afterlife (which none of us can know for sure), then we won't find out anything at all when we die.
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Originally Posted by TomAwesome For proof, creationists just point out how complex life is. Yes, living organisms are impressively complex, and the whole intelligence thing really is amazing, but the mere fact that life is complex does not in any way prove intelligent design. The way Ben was talking about that "lightning striking mud" thing irked me. What he was doing there was something I've seen religious types do quite a bit. He was oversimplifying the scientific theories of the possible origins of life on Earth to a degree that made it sound silly, thereby making the theory he's pushing seem more logical by comparison. I think there's a term for that, but I forget what it is. |
This reason oftentimes seems a cop-out to me. And it's the same reason people have been giving for thousands of years for God. "Well, we can't think of another reason, so the easiest answer would be God."
Now I'm not saying there isn't a God, because there is always that possibility, but I have never seen any evidence to support it. I'm more an agnostic than an atheist, but I tend to lean further to the "no God" side.
Choosing intelligent design shows the tendency of humans to always choose answers based on their limited personal experience. "Hey, this tree looks complex... almost like a person made it. It must have been made by God." I know why God comes out in the conversation, but I don't think it's very logical. It's almost a kind of circular logic.